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    Player
    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise View Post
    Umm… it’s for when people have big shields and low health..

    It’s a pretty core component of sage. It’s not a big ooo shiny macrocosmos or something, but like, when people have shields below healthcap, and your next move would optimally be another euk barrier, pepsis. Literally no reason not to, every shield spell is instant. Super short cooldown

    Can be useful for deep healing a tank, or in getting multiple party members back up to equilibrium while refreshing everyone else’s barriers.

    If nothing else it’s quality of life, like true north
    The reason that Pepsis is useless in most situations and very, very niche in other situations is that SGE has a billion other buttons that are 100% free both in terms of dps and MP, making them straight up superior over a noodle GCD heal + shield. EProg is pretty much your last resort and Pepsis is your last resort of a last resort.
    You don't spam EProg as your bread and butter, you don't constantly "refresh barriers" and it's definitely not a core component of SGE.

    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    Which usually is bad resource management of the sage or new players who dies to every mech or bad gear or all of the reasons stated would be why to use it. Eh i rather have 90% useless esuna on my bar over pepsis. Soda skill need rework for a better flavor
    This is exactly the reason why someone might rely on EProg.
    Not it being a "core component".
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    Ryodin Wake
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 90
    When I first saw Pepsis I thought the point was to use it with EProg. to get all your Addersting stacks even if you didn't need the extra healing to boost personal DPS. Turns out addersting is barely even a mechanic, just used for ONE GCD movement tool, and Pepsis is even more useless. We have so many other emergency buttons and OGCD's to use, why would I ever need to do EProg. and then delete my shields just for some extra healing when I can easily heal everyone to full and keep the shield? Healers in this game are so poorly thought out.
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    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    You must not understand the mechanic of pepsis.

    I use it all the time.


    With Pepsi you able to refreshes Eukrasian Diagnosis/Prognosis(15y) for while providing 450/350 heals, depending on the type applied.

    SGE doesn't do big heals, but a multitude of rather weak or medium heals, in addition to mitigation.

    Eukrasian D/P sets mitigation -> Pepsis ends it while healing -> refresh Eukrasian D/P.


    And again, healers crying useless when they haven't read the tooltips properly.

    I also hear people saying that the SGE heal is weak, yet it's just as manageable to heal your raid as any healer job. It's just that it's not a WHM, SCH, AST. I guess it's the same people who shout SGE no identity.
    Sages heals are not weak idk what on earth some of these people are even trying to say by that. I literally easy top anyone hp off quite easy with 2 buttons from 30% and below to full . Sounds more of just trying to make sage look bad like how they use to abuse poor ast on weaker regen and shields which wasnt. or bad gear and some of the geeen dps bots who put direct hit rate instead of crit and det in their eq ofc your heals maybe weak then. Geez poor sage with the old ast abuse. But honestly only part I wont agree with is pepsi being of use.
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    Hellebore Ghrian
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I don't think Pepsis is useless by itself.

    To me, it's more like we don't have content where Pepsis is useful since SGE has a lot of better tools that he would use before remembering that Pepsis exists.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    I don't think Pepsis is useless by itself.

    To me, it's more like we don't have content where Pepsis is useful since SGE has a lot of better tools that he would use before remembering that Pepsis exists.
    Yep, it's akin to Emergency Tactics on SCH. You don't use it unless...well, it's an emergency.
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    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Yep, it's akin to Emergency Tactics on SCH. You don't use it unless...well, it's an emergency.
    Which usually is bad resource management of the sage or new players who dies to every mech or bad gear or all of the reasons stated would be why to use it. Eh i rather have 90% useless esuna on my bar over pepsis. Soda skill need rework for a better flavor
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    SenzorialBoundries's Avatar
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    Polaris Sonata
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Pepsis is not useless at all. Because of how server works you can even block a hit with the full shield and get the heal from Pepesis as well.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    Pepsis is not useless at all. Because of how server works you can even block a hit with the full shield and get the heal from Pepesis as well.
    If your shield isn't broken after a hit that means people took 0 damage, which makes the healing from Pepsis redundant. So not the best example for Pepsis' usefulness.
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    Polaris Sonata
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    If your shield isn't broken after a hit that means people took 0 damage, which makes the healing from Pepsis redundant. So not the best example for Pepsis' usefulness.
    ? The shield can be broken and you still get the heal also a raid wide will break the shield. A raid wide will consume the shield and do dmg. Due to the way snapshotting works, it is possible to have an instance of damage consume the shield, and get healing from Pepsis. To do this, you need to use Pepsis between the damage snapshotting and resolving.
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    ? The shield can be broken and you still get the heal also a raid wide will break the shield. A raid wide will consume the shield and do dmg. Due to the way snapshotting works, it is possible to have an instance of damage consume the shield, and get healing from Pepsis. To do this, you need to use Pepsis between the damage snapshotting and resolving.
    While I believe this could be possible with how raiding in general is done for complete consistency, I wouldn't bet my raid teams life on someone maybe getting their shield ticked to early and simply just dying to the blast outright since I needed to shield them to begin with.

    One of the many things about AoE in this game is that they don't apply to everyone at the same time just very closely together.
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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