Sage's skill Pepsis is useless

[GrimGale]

Zoe+Pneuma is a better burst thought it admitedly has 2min CD and requires a enemy target. I suppose throwing Pepsis is a last-last resort in very specific situations.

[IceBlueNinja]

Agreed pepsis is trash I dont even have it on my window. Ixo physis and kera, holos and many others easily covers damage and ill rather keep my full big shield covering my entire hp or dps hp or half tank hp to cheese mechs. Sure 1 hit kos wont stop it but yeah that skill is meh. May as well cast prognosis at that point even synastry while nitche i rather use over pepsi as ast.

[IceBlueNinja]

I'll mention damage, I have no problem being open on that and couldn't care less if some Sylphie comes along wailing "filthy green dps!".

Abilities like Krasis, Soteria and Pepsis should be straight up deleted and replaced with dps buttons.

I'm not interested in improving them because we don't need them. We have far too many healing buttons. It's ridiculous how much free heal we have considering the damage intake of most content and people want to add even more? It just turns the gameplay into mindlessly churning out healing buttons without thinking because we don't run out. I'm even fine if a party wipes once a month because we didn't have Pepsis, if it boiled down to missing 150 aoe potency and all other options were exhausted, that group massively screwed up and deserves to wipe.

The healing aspect of healers is more than adequately covered, so yes, delete the useless fluff and add some dps.

yes i want these 3 gone lol

[Lieri]

Pepsis useless.
Bepis good.

[RyuDragnier]

Protip for you all since I haven't seen it mentioned here. Pepsis has a slight delay between pressing the button and the shields being removed with the heals going out. When you press the button, it screencaps whether people have shields at that moment. If you time Pepsis perfectly, damage will get mitigated by the shields, AND you will get the heal from Pepsis, a twofer.

[Shurrikhan]

Protip for you all since I haven't seen it mentioned here. Pepsis has a slight delay between pressing the button and the shields being removed with the heals going out. When you press the button, it screencaps whether people have shields at that moment. If you time Pepsis perfectly, damage will get mitigated by the shields, AND you will get the heal from Pepsis, a twofer.

It's pretty finnicky, though. I've had Pepsis "miss" my tank in a dungeon despite the shield having still been active when the cast went out, granting the Addersting after the animation was already nearly to the tank.

[Naoki34]

To SE: The Sage skill Pepsis is completely useless, I can't understand why one would want to instantly remove a shield effect that's already just applied for a healing effect with a weak potency equivalent to that of Medica. What's the point of making it compatible with Diagnosis then? and making nobody else receive the extra heal effect that this skill brings? "Pepsis Dodge"? lol what a joke.

In order for this Pepsis skill to work, the Eukrasia shield effect must still be present, which means you have to press a 3 button sequence (Eukrasia > Prognosis or Diagnosis > Pepsis) for a light effect aoe or target heal.

I can see that you guys are trying too hard to avoid making a copycat skill of Scholar's Indomitability, Astro's Horoscope, or White Mage's Plenary Indulgence. But this useless hybrid of a new skill called Pepsis just isn't realistic anywhere, not only in dungeon but also in casual raid. Like I said, why cancel a shield effect just freshly applied just to throw in a heal?

My suggestion to fix this skill and make it relevant is now is to eliminate the Eukrasian shield requirement for Pepsis to work. Thank you for reading.

You must not understand the mechanic of pepsis.

I use it all the time.


With Pepsi you able to refreshes Eukrasian Diagnosis/Prognosis(15y) for while providing 450/350 heals, depending on the type applied.

SGE doesn't do big heals, but a multitude of rather weak or medium heals, in addition to mitigation.

Eukrasian D/P sets mitigation -> Pepsis ends it while healing -> refresh Eukrasian D/P.


And again, healers crying useless when they haven't read the tooltips properly.

I also hear people saying that the SGE heal is weak, yet it's just as manageable to heal your raid as any healer job. It's just that it's not a WHM, SCH, AST. I guess it's the same people who shout SGE no identity.

[GrimGale]

I think the intention is that you mainly use it after the shields are partially yet not completely used up; you got some use of the shields but still receive the full healing effect of Pepsis then.

You'd think that be the case, but a 320 potency shield is not big enough to outlast most AoEs. And if it does remain, you'll probably not need the burst heal provided by pepsis.

There may be very specific situations, where it may be useful.

[Absurdity]

I'd argue Curtain Call was never hard to heal, the difficult part was getting your tether break timing down correctly so the healers actually had time to heal at all and using your mitigation properly.

Getting blown up because 2 tethers went off within 2 seconds isn't a difficult healer mechanic, getting blown up because 1 dps was ever so slightly out of range to get the heal isn't a difficult healer mechanic, getting blown up because you had 0 party mitigation isn't a difficult healer mechanic. Curtain Call is certainly a team effort, everyone needs to bring their A-game and one mistake could mean a wipe, that doesn't mean it's hard to actually heal.

[DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise]

Umm… it’s for when people have big shields and low health..

It’s a pretty core component of sage. It’s not a big ooo shiny macrocosmos or something, but like, when people have shields below healthcap, and your next move would optimally be another euk barrier, pepsis. Literally no reason not to, every shield spell is instant. Super short cooldown

Can be useful for deep healing a tank, or in getting multiple party members back up to equilibrium while refreshing everyone else’s barriers.

If nothing else it’s quality of life, like true north