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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicPeanut View Post
    I seriously doubt adding a button to hide things on screen would take more time than modeling multiple hairstyles and faces or revamping a whole Job. Probably wouldn't even take a day.
    then you seriously have no idea how software works.

    this mythical button has to differentiate between player and npcs for one. your experience would take a dive in the dirt if suddenly all the npc's went away too. then they have to test to make sure it covers all areas, and that all required on screen assets do not disappear as well. your "simple button" would take more than a day to design and implement and quality test to make sure it doesnt break anything. so yes, it would take away from something else, like more multiplayer content for instance (not that you mind that right?)
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  2. #42
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    Khujo'sae Tayuun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    then you seriously have no idea how software works.

    this mythical button has to differentiate between player and npcs for one. your experience would take a dive in the dirt if suddenly all the npc's went away too. then they have to test to make sure it covers all areas, and that all required on screen assets do not disappear as well. your "simple button" would take more than a day to design and implement and quality test to make sure it doesnt break anything. so yes, it would take away from something else, like more multiplayer content for instance (not that you mind that right?)
    - the game already fully knows how to differentiate between players, NPCs, minions, chocobo, and any number of other models. There is literally a setting already that limits the number of characters and unnecessary objects displayed on screen for people with low end PCs. Also, you can already turn off names selectively for all kinds of targetable models.
    - a third party plugin already exists that can do this, although I don't use it. it is not so difficult to implement that XIV couldn't possibly do it officially, it just ISN'T
    - the devs are overhauling lighting and making all instanced duties soloable and furthermore are looking to make the whole experience solo-friendly, which totally undermines the argument that the devs are/should be focused on the multiplayer experience
    - also, afaik, the team that would be handling this feature isn't the team that handles designing multiplayer combat. The development resources don't overlap. "Your suggestion would take away from combat designers making more multiplayer content for us" isn't a valid argument. Your apple tree won't make apples faster by you trying to stop someone else from having an orange.

    I truly don't understand why you're all taking such hostile, patronizing tones about this.
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    Last edited by NitrogenFixation; 06-12-2022 at 10:16 AM.

  3. #43
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    Hiding all players should be easy to implement. Aion is the game that can do this with a single press of the Scroll lock button.

    I love the feeling of seeing a bunch of peple on screen, but it gets annoying especially when you're trying to click on NPCs. I have to say that I do wish this feature existed sometimes.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinder View Post
    Hiding all players should be easy to implement. Aion is the game that can do this with a single press of the Scroll lock button.

    I love the feeling of seeing a bunch of peple on screen, but it gets annoying especially when you're trying to click on NPCs. I have to say that I do wish this feature existed sometimes.
    Aion's ability to reduce what was displayed from other characters w is a "semi-good" example- the reason that I say "semi-good" is that the only reason that I ever used it, or that I ever heard the vast , vast majority of people using it was because of people who had issues displaying the large number of other people's characters and their skills typically all together in one area - sometimes hundreds of people - so you could select to hide their names for example, and tone down other effects. so that your FPS would not drop to single digits. So it was really useful when used for that purpose. For myself, I hid this bound to Shift-F12 whenever I went into sieges so I kept my FPS up.

    In this game if other people are hiding NPCs, you don't need to look anywhere for a solution, just use Ctrl-X and voila- there you go, you can see the NPC.
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    Last edited by IDontPetLalas; 06-13-2022 at 02:58 AM. Reason: typos in the last line, of to if

  5. #45
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    I've been wanting a feature like this for awhile in this game as well. You would think we'd already have one so people can get really immersed into the story and have no surprises ruined simply because others are going through the same story and happen to spawn a fight randomly in the distance. A handful of older games had a feature like this and it did wonders for many players in the past. Cut down on lag, allowed you to see tiny quest objects, actually be able to see an npc that wasn't swarmed by players (especially when the npc would be emoting to further express their thoughts).
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Aion's ability to reduce what was displayed from other characters ... you could select to hide their names for example, and tone down other effects.
    No need to look to another game

    FFXIV lets you reduce the complexity of what you see other players, NPCs, and enemies do in System Configuration -> Graphics Setting, in the Shadows and the Movement Physics settings.

    FFXIV also allows you to control the display of names in Character Configuration -> Display Name presets, which has tabs for Own, Others, NPCs and General. This includes the options to never show non-party non-alliance PC names, to only show them when that PC is targeted, and so on. Whether the full name is displayed or it is full or partially initialized is also controllable.
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    Other mmo's already have this ability, even mobile mmo's. So I don't see any reason to be against this.
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    You can already hide players in gpose. It's not that big a stretch. It would be nice to do this in Leap of Faith
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicPeanut View Post
    For me, it's a Final Fantasy first, MMO second. I'm not a social person in general, so I'd just like the RPG part of MMORPG to be available as an option to me. I don't believe this request is that out there or unreasonable.
    It is entirely unreasonable. It's an MMO. A social genre. One of the points of it is talking to people, removing that from the equation so people can't even attempt to talk to others is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard.
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    We can already blacklist people, though, which mean not seeing what they write into chats. Within our own experience, we shut their message because it does not interest us.
    I mean, to chime in for this "we are playing mmo and people ARE content! even those displeasing glamours by legion!"
    My blacklist at least is shamefully crowded. I don't even have anything personal against most of those people, but spamming shout irks me to no end and I have determined to spare myself from that.
    Thanks, if I start feeling unsmotherable feeling to visit all these nightclubs, I will seek you out on discord.
    And if/when I have learned fr/ger/nl/?? I'll consider joining your FC.
    But until then shoo.
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    Last edited by Burmecia; 06-12-2022 at 03:42 PM.

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