Do we really need two healers per alliance in 24 mans?

[LeonKeyh]

It's mostly just to keep the same general 1 healer per 4 players. Having at least 2 rezzers is a good point, but you have the other 2 alliances that could raise your healer if they die. 1 healer per 4 characters is a decent idea, but it ignores the exponential strength increase of AE healing spells. That's ultimately the reason why it doesn't "feel right."

2 healers can heal EVERYONE twice as much as 1 healer. It's one thing if you have 2 healers single healing 2 different people, that fits in with the 1 healer per 4 players ratio. But given the fact that 2 healers can heal everyone at once for twice as much as 1 healer could, that's why it ends up being so easy in Alliance raids (Normal Raids definitely seem to be "more" balanced for that).

I honestly think that it'd be more interesting if healers had a debuff to AE heals in alliance raids to make up for that. I'm sure that'll never happen though.

[EorzeaWanderer]

Sorry for veering somewhat off-topic, but it has always bugged me how the game uses inconsistent terminology for these groups, namely the phrases "Alliance A", "Alliance B", and "Alliance C".

That doesn't make any sense. You don't have three "Alliances", you are a single "Alliance" of three "Parties" who banded together for this duty (which should be labeled "Party A", "Party B", and "Party C").

My apologies, rant complete, resume healer discussion.

[Risvertasashi]

Sorry for veering somewhat off-topic, but it has always bugged me how the game uses inconsistent terminology for these groups, namely the phrases "Alliance A", "Alliance B", and "Alliance C".

That doesn't make any sense. You don't have three "Alliances", you are a single "Alliance" of three "Parties" who banded together for this duty (which should be labeled "Party A", "Party B", and "Party C").

My apologies, rant complete, resume healer discussion.

I mean, post it in the localization section and a dev there might actually go "Hmm that's a good point", lol

[ThorneDynasty]

2 healers can heal EVERYONE twice as much as 1 healer.

No they absolutely can't. You can only heal up to full health, which a single healer can do easily do in alliance raids. 2 healers is just a ridiculous amount of wasted HPS as you are constantly sitting on all your cooldowns.

[AnotherPerson]

No they absolutely can't. You can only heal up to full health, which a single healer can do easily do in alliance raids. 2 healers is just a ridiculous amount of wasted HPS as you are constantly sitting on all your cooldowns.

I think what they mean by that is that having 2 healers double the amount of AOE healing at their disposal - rather than have 1 healer designated to 4 players, AoE Healing heals the entire party. This means you can have 1 healer covering for 8 players rather than 1 for 4 as in dungeons. The second healer also covers the 8 players using AoE healing instead of covering 4 players.

So instead of the split being:
1 healer per 4 players = 1x4 -> healing output for 4
2 healers with 8 players = 2x4 -> healing output for 8

Which would make "healing output distribution normalized" to a certain extent..

You have the current resulting healing output of:
1 healer per 8 players. 1x8 -> healing output for 8
2 healers per 8 players. 2x8 -> healing output for 16


Effectively it "doubles" the amount of healing at their disposal by increasing the exponential growth of the healer's healing output. 2 players can outputting healing enough for 16 as opposed to 2 players outputting enough healing for 8 players.