Paladins Invuln Capping in Onsal Hakkar

[Deccado]

I had multiple matches this last rotation through Onsal Hakkar (I've been away and unable to reply until now) and after dealing with paladins in every single match, on points that they literally are the only two of their team there, and then lose match after match to paladin cheese, I'm done playing the mode.

This pretty much sums up my feelings.

I didn't think it was a big issue when it first started happening, however I have not played much in Onsal Hakkar recently, until this rotation.

Having played 15+ matches in the past 24 hours though, it seems obvious that this tactic has become much more widely known, as almost every S rank and a fair majority of the A ranks I have been at have been taken using this tactic.

I found that it didn't really matter whether you were on a team who were using this tactic or not as far as reducing the fun factor, as it either gives one team an advantage that is unlikely to be overcome through normal play, or in the case of multiple teams using the tactic, it just becomes a race to see which teams Paladins get to it first.

Either way, had I not had yesterday already set aside for frontlines, I would not have played so many matches, and will likely be avoiding Onsal Hakkar for the foreseeable future, as it just wasn't much fun, even when on the winning team.

[Kowen]

I didn't think it was a big issue when it first started happening, however I have not played much in Onsal Hakkar recently, until this rotation.

Having played 15+ matches in the past 24 hours though, it seems obvious that this tactic has become much more widely known, as almost every S rank and a fair majority of the A ranks I have been at have been taken using this tactic.

I think it feels worse lately because the Moogle Treasure Trove gets more people playing Frontlines.

On Primal there's been a group of 4 friends every single Onsal night who all go Paladin and take turns LBing/covering each other, and it's pretty infuriating.

The people saying "just counter it" don't realize just how easy it is to pull off. Purify + Guard give you more than enough time to get through the entire capping animation, and knockback and draw-ins usually don't move the PLD far enough away to break the cover tether. On top of that if you have multiple people working together, one of them is always going to have Hallowed Ground ready for every cycle of nodes.

It takes WAY more coordination to "counter" the exploit than it does to actually do it, and it's not good for the mode at all.

[Absurdity]

one of them is always going to have Hallowed Ground ready for every cycle of nodes.

Don't forget that you can potentially speed this up even more if you have an AST in the party.

[SilverSkyway]

Bad cheese. Please throw away the cheese.

[Misteltien]

A few friends of mine and I were doing this last night, its super easy to pull off and can easily shift the game...in one particular match both enemy teams were focusing ours and had us pushed almost all the way into spawn while my 2 partners and I would just cap under both teams trying to nuke us... this really really needs to be fixed.

[Azuri]

I actually started to appreciate the cover thing. With more players realizing the futility of going for ovoos there are now nice pockets of just simple fun PvP brawling in Onsal. I say let the PLDs spend 20 minutes clicking on interactables in their own game of PvObjective.

[Absurdity]

I actually started to appreciate the cover thing. With more players realizing the futility of going for ovoos there are now nice pockets of just simple fun PvP brawling in Onsal. I say let the PLDs spend 20 minutes clicking on interactables in their own game of PvObjective.

I'd have to disagree. As fun as mindless zergs can be, knowing that no matter how many team fights you win you're still going to lose to a bunch of paladin cheese is just not a fun experience.

The other, less subjective, problem with the objective cheese is that you're not necessarily just playing frontlines for fun. Rewards are based on whether you end up in 1st, 2nd or 3rd place and losing out on rewards simply because the other team had more paladins is just bad design, especially during the current moogle event since those are based on your place as well.

[Saraide]

Is there anything that can stop a covered player outside of another covered player capturing first?

[Garten]

Is there anything that can stop a covered player outside of another covered player capturing first?

A really good warrior with its pull, or maybe a monk? i dunno how far it push. nono for mch, cause its push is only 10y (and cover iirc is 15)

[Reap00]

I don't really see it as a huge issue. More than half of your points will (or should) be coming from kills. It's unlikely that a single node, capped by a single paladin, will determine the outcome of a game. It's dumb and annoying and will hopefully get fixed, but it's not like it's gamebreaking.

Not true. I just had a game where yellow sauntered around and gathered up every A and S rank node with literally no problem whatsoever. Something needs to change.