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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    Garbage design.

    DRK / PLD in pvp are pure cancer seriously, how you can give them 10 seconds of immunity? There is actually 0 counter play to it unlike before the rework where SMN could delete their barriers.
    Can I confirm if DRK can do the same thing? I had a game that had a DRK/WHM cap a gold point twice in the middle of fights between competing teams. On paper, Eventide should only be invulnerable to weapon skills, right? But I was quite sure abilities and LB didn't work. Not sure about CC.
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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astraios View Post
    Can I confirm if DRK can do the same thing? I had a game that had a DRK/WHM cap a gold point twice in the middle of fights between competing teams. On paper, Eventide should only be invulnerable to weapon skills, right? But I was quite sure abilities and LB didn't work. Not sure about CC.
    Eventide shouldn't make them immune to anything. Eventide prevents the DRK from dying, but it doesn't protect them from damage or abilities like Hallowed Ground does.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    Eventide shouldn't make them immune to anything. Eventide prevents the DRK from dying, but it doesn't protect them from damage or abilities like Hallowed Ground does.
    Yea. That was what I thought. But it seems almost like they could wade into a full alliance attacking them and still cap a point. I must be missing something.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astraios View Post
    Yea. That was what I thought. But it seems almost like they could wade into a full alliance attacking them and still cap a point. I must be missing something.
    Nah, the closest that a DRK can is to use the Salted Earth outside of capping zone and pull the attackers in + Bind. In Onsal's mid it can pull them off the ramp or such.

    Although DRK is more about enabling group wipes rather than capping
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  5. #35
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    Is it really bad for players to be creative?
    What about DRK is capable to to wipe a group with Eventide and Salted Earth at Secure’s ramp.?
    Technically, 3 dorks can wiped entire 24 men aramp by drag them to fall to death.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Is it really bad for players to be creative?
    What about DRK is capable to to wipe a group with Eventide and Salted Earth at Secure’s ramp.?
    Technically, 3 dorks can wiped entire 24 men aramp by drag them to fall to death.
    Because i am telling to the person about DRK's utility just for info, not that it is the only class that can help wipe teams and I am giving an example.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    Because i am telling to the person about DRK's utility just for info, not that it is the only class that can help wipe teams and I am giving an example.
    Oh, I wasn't referring to your post.
    I just find interesting that people is lacking on creativity.
    Although, this patch put a limit on my solo ability on Frontline but it opens up so many possibiility
    PLD strategy (Yes, JP confirmed it is work as intended) in Onsal Hakir
    DRK strategy in Secure
    MNK's Assassins' Creed style to remove BH players
    There are many more yet to be discovered
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  8. #38
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    "PLD strategy (Yes, JP confirmed it is work as intended) in Onsal Hakir"


    Where? This was an exploit back in HW (talking about seal rock) that was fixed before. I want to see the post where they outright state it's okay now.
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    Last edited by Tahseh; 06-21-2022 at 04:29 AM.

  9. #39
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    It's really pathetic that this exploit has lasted for months simply because it's only an issue in "old" pvp content and not their shiny new prized possession mode. If this was happening and being abusing in a raid there would have been emergency maintenance in one to two days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    It's really pathetic that this exploit has lasted for months simply because it's only an issue in "old" pvp content and not their shiny new prized possession mode. If this was happening and being abusing in a raid there would have been emergency maintenance in one to two days.
    I mean, we got multiple hotfix patches to address CC balance. I don't think that's the issue. I think the issue is that SE apparently believes this is a "creative use of game mechanics," and not an actual problem. Who knows? Maybe JP players are better at dealing with it than we are?
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