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  1. #101
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    GrumbleBeard's Avatar
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    Severa Nanase
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    Jenova
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    Sage Lv 90
    Won a match today that we definitely should have lost because of this. Our team was pretty much outmatched by the other two in terms of combat but we had one party with a few guys doing this and capped a lot of nodes. It was still close, but I really don't see how anyone can say this is not an exploit. Without it my team wouldn't have been any where close to winning, we literally lost every engagement.
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  2. #102
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    TabrisOmbrelame's Avatar
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    Relnoria Thelysea
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleBeard View Post
    Won a match today that we definitely should have lost because of this. Our team was pretty much outmatched by the other two in terms of combat but we had one party with a few guys doing this and capped a lot of nodes. It was still close, but I really don't see how anyone can say this is not an exploit. Without it my team wouldn't have been any where close to winning, we literally lost every engagement.
    Perfect exemple of what an abuse is.

    Making a "return" in some PvP match may not surprise some people... By normal means ! But by doing some abuse like that, that's just complete bs
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  3. #103
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    Jettinson's Avatar
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame View Post
    Perfect exemple of what an abuse is.

    Making a "return" in some PvP match may not surprise some people... By normal means ! But by doing some abuse like that, that's just complete bs
    Comebacks are all doable even when you start your first minutes with 0 points but when people whip out the paladin abuse it does not even feel good at all.

    Then it can turn all 3 teams decide to do that and the game turns just plain boring and annoying
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  4. #104
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Phoenix
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Just lost to this bug abuse again.

    Either remove this bg from frontlines OR show names of our enemies and make it reportable. I would rather just /afk next time i get into this bg than lose winning match to BUG ABUSER

    Literally 1 paladin cheesed every A and S once his team started losing

    Quote Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame View Post
    Perfect exemple of what an abuse is.

    Making a "return" in some PvP match may not surprise some people... By normal means ! But by doing some abuse like that, that's just complete bs
    This bs should be punishable because it is exploit and no way intended mechanic AND AND AND because they force competitive spirit in CC, so why cant they force similar in frontlines?

    People brigaded streamers and banned them for SILLY UI MOD THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED INTO GAME.

    And here i play match with 72 people in it and most of them watch red team paladin walking around with 15 people guarding him to let him do bug abuse easier ..... People like this paladin and teammates that intentionally knew what hes doing deserve a week ban
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    Last edited by Stasya; 10-05-2022 at 02:41 AM.

  5. #105
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    Kansene's Avatar
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    Rajeko Thunderbright
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    Lich
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    Scholar Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    Just lost to this bug abuse again.

    Either remove this bg from frontlines OR show names of our enemies and make it reportable. I would rather just /afk next time i get into this bg than lose winning match to BUG ABUSER

    Literally 1 paladin cheesed every A and S once his team started losing



    This bs should be punishable because it is exploit and no way intended mechanic AND AND AND because they force competitive spirit in CC, so why cant they force similar in frontlines?

    People brigaded streamers and banned them for SILLY UI MOD THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED INTO GAME.

    And here i play match with 72 people in it and most of them watch red team paladin walking around with 15 people guarding him to let him do bug abuse easier ..... People like this paladin and teammates that intentionally knew what hes doing deserve a week ban
    Devs have stated that it's working exactly as intended afaik.
    So gg. Just don't queue for Onsal, like I've decided to do. Saves a lot of headache.
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  6. #106
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    Ceridwen's Avatar
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    Tylwyth Teg
    World
    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    And I got stuck in it again today. 2 paladins. I'm beginning to despite the class itself. (which, ok, I never really liked anyway...) I was in one where a nice & polite paladin asked who wanted cover, and none of us took it. I mean, I know we should have, I suppose, but I was still happy no one did. It's so cheap. You feel dirty doing it. I get why people do - but I still hate it.

    I remind myself it's not our fault. It's the less than great person who designed this, & worse, let's it continue.
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  7. #107
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    Eliza Aldrich
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I've started an alt that's only a pallie, so I've finally been forced to play something other than dragoon in Frontline. I lust for blood, not cheese, so I definitely have not been trying to make cheese. Nevertheless, I can feel the intense hatred from 24+ people just for being a pallie no matter the map, but particularly Onsal.

    Opponents are so focused on trying to stop me, because of the possibility that I might or can do the cheese strat, that they don't realize this has unintentionally turned into me distracting everyone while my teammate, without cover, snatches the flag. Of course, this doesn't necessarily translate to a win (some of my teams are too slow, too scattered, too timid), but the effects of letting this exist for so long extend past flags that are captured with cheese.
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    The next person who bears steel at my PVP team, I'm not only going to kill them, but I'm going to kill their spouse, their friends, and burn their godsdamned house down!

  8. #108
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    Garten's Avatar
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    Garten Rei
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinding_Awesomeness View Post
    I've started an alt that's only a pallie, so I've finally been forced to play something other than dragoon in Frontline. I lust for blood, not cheese, so I definitely have not been trying to make cheese. Nevertheless, I can feel the intense hatred from 24+ people just for being a pallie no matter the map, but particularly Onsal.

    Opponents are so focused on trying to stop me, because of the possibility that I might or can do the cheese strat, that they don't realize this has unintentionally turned into me distracting everyone while my teammate, without cover, snatches the flag. Of course, this doesn't necessarily translate to a win (some of my teams are too slow, too scattered, too timid), but the effects of letting this exist for so long extend past flags that are captured with cheese.
    This Is because it Is a loss/loss situation:
    -if you ignore PLDs they could cheese
    -if you focus PLDs (and to kill One It could take a lot of resource, cause they can invuln, they can guard, they can heal and purify and they have High durability) you burn a lot of time and precious skills that you then cant use to contest a node
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  9. #109
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    GordonGeeko's Avatar
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    Gordon Geeko
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    I lust for blood....

    *creates Paladin*

    Your own perhaps lol
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    Last edited by GordonGeeko; 10-06-2022 at 02:42 AM.

  10. #110
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    Blinding_Awesomeness's Avatar
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    Eliza Aldrich
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    This Is because it Is a loss/loss situation:
    -if you ignore PLDs they could cheese
    -if you focus PLDs (and to kill One It could take a lot of resource, cause they can invuln, they can guard, they can heal and purify and they have High durability) you burn a lot of time and precious skills that you then cant use to contest a node
    Completely agree. On one hand, the "bait" as a strategy can be fun, and I've done that on DRG before. But knowing it's because I can easily cap a node at any moment (from their perspective, anyways) on top of the massive damage reduction doesn't leave a great feeling.

    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGeeko View Post
    I lust for blood....

    *creates Paladin*

    Your own perhaps lol
    My blood seeps between the gaps in my armor and stains it blackish-red like they abyss. A dark knight is born!

    Haha. More seriously, I was surprised how well I ended up liking pallie in PVP. My plan was just to play a few games to get some virtu gear so I wouldn't look like a dork sprout, and I wasn't looking forward to it. But the job really clicked with me. (Though I noticed that I'm more aggressive than other tanks in general.)
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    The next person who bears steel at my PVP team, I'm not only going to kill them, but I'm going to kill their spouse, their friends, and burn their godsdamned house down!

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