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    UkcsAlias's Avatar
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    Lottery for limited plots is not a good system. Its just a less bad system than placard spam.
    For any limited system, lottery is generaly a fair system as it gives equal chances. Even for those who play longer it is (only during its transition it might not feel like that). Over time you will see a lot of bidding cycles, this automaticly increases the odds for you (slow, but steady).

    100x1% chance to win, in the end still results in a 65% overal win chance (and after 200 this is 85%). Dedication is rewarded. It might not feel like it (since after 200 cycles there is a bit less than 15% chance of still not having a house), but it still beats the 99% chance of not owning a house for someone who just did 1 cycle. Add to that the potential addition of fresh wards with massively increased odds, and the percentages will be even better in your favour.

    The real issue is obviously lack of space, but in such limited system, RNG is the best. Dont blame the lottery for the real issue.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    100x1% chance to win, in the end still results in a 65% overal win chance (and after 200 this is 85%). Dedication is rewarded.
    100 lottery cycles is 900 days which is 2.5 years. For a slightly better chance than a coinflip. That's assuming there are houses to bid on every cycle, which there soon won't be. It also assumes there are only 100 bidders for a house, which is not the case.

    What a garbage system.
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    Khara Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    The real issue is obviously lack of space, but in such limited system, RNG is the best. Dont blame the lottery for the real issue.
    That was kind of my point. Lottery is a fix for limited supply. Address the supply, and we don't need lottery. But no instanced housing because potato.
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    Vencio Luirex
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    It was a matter all the same to choose a “lesser evil” with game of “chance” than permit longer the placard spamming (which was relentless) & any possible third party cheater.

    Truth is housing problem was always prevalent & it kept being so with lottery.

    I believe those who are upset with the lottery system cannot bear along through the changes & therefore robbed them of the opportunity to gain leverage upon placard-farming or otherwise.

    While I am yet wary of this new system I won’t deny it settled in much more convenient for anyone to roll on a chance to obtain it.

    Just the nature of some people that can’t bear losing their “bet” on it & resort into upheaval madness all because of lottery.

    I am with OP & glad I am not the only one that sees the silver lining on it.
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
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    When people saying old system is better, they are referring it is easier to claim during plot release.
    If you smart enough and pick a small in Goblet, you will get your first house and you are free to relocate afterward.
    You also don't need a day off as all you need to sacrifice is 1 hour of sleep by setting alarm clock before maintenance comes to end.
    You log in at ouside of housing ward entrance (not main city) and enter the route you have been practicing and claim your first house.
    It is as simple as 1 2 3 and I recommend same method to my friends who start after 3.0 and they all got their first house.
    This so called "fair" lottery only punish new player's chance to get their first house because dumb people who cant wait for plot release want an easier time.
    Especially during Shirogane release, it was best time to get to move to a better location in Mist or Lavender.
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    Last edited by Divinemights; 06-26-2022 at 10:33 AM.

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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    When people saying old system is better, they are referring it is easier to claim during plot release.
    If you smart enough and pick a small in Goblet, you will get your first house and you are free to relocate afterward.
    You also don't need a day off as all you need to sacrifice is 1 hour of sleep by setting alarm clock before maintenance comes to end.
    You log in at ouside of housing ward entrance (not main city) and enter the route you have been practicing and claim your first house.
    It is as simple as 1 2 3 and I recommend same method to my friends who start after 3.0 and they all got their first house.
    Why do we have to go to such ridiculous lengths, in an MMO though?

    SE does not advertise ward housing as exclusive content. Quite the opposite.

    If XIV had proper fully instanced housing from the start like Wildstar or Rift - sufficient supply - we would not have to participate in things like land rushes,compete against bots/RMT etc

    Not sure why some players are defending a system that does not respect a player's time and heavily incentivizes third party tools.

    Especially, when SE themselves have not stated that ward housing is meant to be exclusive.
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