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  1. #81
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    iirc they literally altered the head models
    i don't remember these horns being rotated so harshly even with this haircut
    the base of these horns are literally sticking out



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    Last edited by VirusOnline; 06-14-2022 at 09:44 AM.

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akimori View Post
    Oh I was so disappointed when they retconned the Bozja queen as a Femhroth. You are right, that was the PERFECT opportunity for that, but ugh...they copped out
    I guess it would have been too much for them to actually make a unique model, or settle on a femhroth concept?
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I guess it would have been too much for them to actually make a unique model, or settle on a femhroth concept?
    If they did, then they wouldnt have an excuse to not have FemHroths finished.
    Im not pleased with the FemRoe replacement, but I think there would be a decent uproar if they showed off a FemHroth and tell us we cant play one.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    If they did, then they wouldnt have an excuse to not have FemHroths finished.
    Im not pleased with the FemRoe replacement, but I think there would be a decent uproar if they showed off a FemHroth and tell us we cant play one.
    I kind of doubt there would be much of an uproar. Female hrothgar aren't very popular, and even eventually made playable they won't be popular. Regardless, they can include a female hrothgar NPC and still not include them as playable. They were completely fine putting out the hairs they did for male hroths, and even with all the uproar that actually caused, to this day they largely seem to be ignored. So even if there was an "uproar" for there being a female hrothgar npc, and the race still being unplayable, I seriously doubt they would have any issue with it.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I kind of doubt there would be much of an uproar. Female hrothgar aren't very popular, and even eventually made playable they won't be popular. Regardless, they can include a female hrothgar NPC and still not include them as playable. They were completely fine putting out the hairs they did for male hroths, and even with all the uproar that actually caused, to this day they largely seem to be ignored. So even if there was an "uproar" for there being a female hrothgar npc, and the race still being unplayable, I seriously doubt they would have any issue with it.
    They cant be popular or even show a sliver of popularity if they dont exist yet....lol
    The Hrothgar fanbases is a small fanbase, but is still a fanbase that should be heard.

    Also the story WOULD have been even more compelling if they did feature a FemHroth instead of a FemRoe Placeholder. Still would be annoyed an upset about not being playable, but I guess it would have been nice to see one.
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  6. #86
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    Know something else? Would be nice to get a couple more Voice acted Hrothgar.
    We got like, 2? And I think there was one in The Crystarium that got like 1 line. Im not remembering exactly.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Know something else? Would be nice to get a couple more Voice acted Hrothgar.
    We got like, 2? And I think there was one in The Crystarium that got like 1 line. Im not remembering exactly.
    We got Runar and Magnus for sure. I can't remember if there's a Ronso that's voice acted just before we leave the Crystarium to go to the Tempest (that may be the one you're referring to?).

    Apart from that, none at all. In fact, no Hrothgar whatsoever were voiced in all of Endwalker. Not a single one. Yet we see Rostik and a couple in the background in the cutscenes leading into Garlemald, but they don't speak. Even when Thancred is with them, they play virtually no role and have no lines.

    To add insult to injury, the one Ronso to ever be relevant to the MSQ goes by without having his name mentioned. Not even by the one person who gives a damn about him. Y'shtola always says he's her motivation... but she never states his name. She just assumes everyone's in on it. And sure, the players may be, but when she says it to complete strangers, it gets kind of weird. Y'shtola, sweetie, you've said it about five times now. JUST SAY HIS NAME. It's not even hard, it's two syllables: RUNAR.

    Same for Ryne, though that I can forgive. Isn't Magnus meant to be her father figure now? Or at least her caretaker. Yet at no point does she mention him; she mentions Gaia just fine, but the one dude with a massive depression and a drinking problem that we snapped out of and entrusted a minor to? Not a word about him.

    I stated this in my opening posts, idk if they were noticeable among all the stuff I said... But I personally do think it's an issue. What's up with this silence around Hrothgar? Almost like the MSQ is too scared to acknowledge we're there, just vaguely waving our hand at us in minimal recognition :|
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    We got Runar and Magnus for sure. I can't remember if there's a Ronso that's voice acted just before we leave the Crystarium to go to the Tempest (that may be the one you're referring to?).

    Apart from that, none at all. In fact, no Hrothgar whatsoever were voiced in all of Endwalker. Not a single one. Yet we see Rostik and a couple in the background in the cutscenes leading into Garlemald, but they don't speak. Even when Thancred is with them, they play virtually no role and have no lines.

    To add insult to injury, the one Ronso to ever be relevant to the MSQ goes by without having his name mentioned. Not even by the one person who gives a damn about him. Y'shtola always says he's her motivation... but she never states his name. She just assumes everyone's in on it. And sure, the players may be, but when she says it to complete strangers, it gets kind of weird. Y'shtola, sweetie, you've said it about five times now. JUST SAY HIS NAME. It's not even hard, it's two syllables: RUNAR.

    Same for Ryne, though that I can forgive. Isn't Magnus meant to be her father figure now? Or at least her caretaker. Yet at no point does she mention him; she mentions Gaia just fine, but the one dude with a massive depression and a drinking problem that we snapped out of and entrusted a minor to? Not a word about him.

    I stated this in my opening posts, idk if they were noticeable among all the stuff I said... But I personally do think it's an issue. What's up with this silence around Hrothgar? Almost like the MSQ is too scared to acknowledge we're there, just vaguely waving our hand at us in minimal recognition :|
    Just realized I could answer my own question if I just logged in lol
    There he is, his name is Bragi. Hes in the Market area of The Crystarium and I swear he had 1 voice acted line.

    Hmm...Im not even sure if Magnus would have taken her in, or even if Ryne would want to be taken care of anymore. Id imagine working with the Warriors of Darkness she'd probably be taken care of by everyone while giving back in some way. That or run off and somehow take care of herself with Gaia...
    But it is depressing, sure only 1 Male Viera got any character in EW, but thats still 100% more then any present Hrothgar in EW.
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  9. #89
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    From what I remember Y'shtola says Runars name once or twice, but it's been a while since I played Shadowbringers, so I am not sure when exactly it was. Maybe the scene where he picked her up quite literally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minali View Post
    From what I remember Y'shtola says Runars name once or twice, but it's been a while since I played Shadowbringers, so I am not sure when exactly it was. Maybe the scene where he picked her up quite literally?
    Yeah. She says it in Shadowbringers. I'm talking about Endwalker. She mentions him, but she never says his name. Not even in 6.1.

    "I'm here on Sharlayan, gonna see what they know about travelling through worlds freely. I have a promise to keep with someone.
    Oh, Thavnair has intel on passageways to other worlds? I must know about this, someone is waiting for me, and they're really important."
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