Hrothgar Feedback Thread

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Way to ignore not only 5 posts of actual experience but also other people showing exactly what's going on. Bravo, you're displaying how much people shouldn't listen to you.

Way to ignore other people telling you flat out how they've been feeling playing not just Hrothgar, but Viera as well.

Not to mention how your argument hinges on Devil's Proof. "The devs didn't show us they hate Hrothgar, therefore this is unnecessary". But that was never the case. The case is showing how
a) Attention has been lacking, for Hrothgar and Viera both but with extra emphasis on Hrothgar. What with the low-effort stuff they've been doing which I've linked
b) The dev team has been taking decisions without taking into account what people who would play that content actually want
c) Hrothgar players need to give their feedback to the development team other than just "We're angy". Because we did that, and our community representative just regurgitated the same response. One which has already been shown to be false.

If the devs hate anything is getting death threats. Having players show their displeasure and being told what the systematic failures have been is what was done back in 1.0.

And constantly denying this when it's been the experience of everyone who's played this race just shows what sort of person you really are.

There was a point that I said people should listen to me? Huh, I wasnt aware of that.
Nor was I aware that other people were telling me flat out how they've been feeling playing not just Hrothgar, but Viera as well.
I dont recall talking to other people, so how would they tell me anything?....
Are you just unaware that my post didnt even really address your 5 post OP on the front page? That I was just giving my thoughts, and just saying Id rather try to look at it rationally with X reasoning, instead of blabbing things like "they hate the Hrothgar" ?
Its not a difficult Read my Dude.

"The devs didn't show us they hate Hrothgar, therefore this is unnecessary"
Didnt say that, wasn't my Argument. I said they didnt Say they Hate Hrothgar, therefor this claim is a lie. And its a contradiction to their creation in the 1st place, and Hrothgar have been mentioned and talked about. Please, if your gonna challenge anything I say even if its not meant to really be an argument, can you at least quote it correctly?
All I ask. Thoughts are fine, I'll accept if you have something to say, but dont misquote me and twist my words.

A) You claim low effort, not a completely disagreeable mindset...still doesnt prove hatred of the Hrothgar.
B) OK?...they could have made better decisions...still not seeing proof of Hrothgar hatred
C) Then do so...is there a statement that Ive ever argued against giving feedback? Maybe information gathered wasn't translated correctly. I really cant and dont have an argument against this or for it. But I still dont think claiming "The Devs hate Hrothgar" is a reasonable response without actual proof.
Anybody can make a claim, but not every claim is true. All Im saying.

""And constantly denying this when it's been the experience of everyone who's played this race just shows what sort of person you really are.""
Wow...and I thought I was the one who shouldn't be listened to. If your are just gonna create lies out of thin air to win an argument, then it sounds like nobody should really take you seriously.
I haven't denied any of the points, just that they aren't proof of Hrothgar Hatred by the Devs. To sit here and say I denied all your points is a laughable lie, and I love how 90% of the 'Arguments' I get into have the person create lies out of nowhere, for no reason.


Edit: You want Female Hrothgar to be a package deal? IT WASN'T FOR VIERA. What makes you think we, who have been treated the way I've described on the first page, would be any different? Are you delusional?
LMAO yes, yknow what, I am Delusional. Because Im hopelessly optimistic that the Hrothgar will be improved. And I think getting both Genders is a good stepping stone. And I choose to believe that having more time on the females would be beneficial to the Males as well; who you described, Have been treated the way you've described on the first page.
They need fixes and improvements, WAY more then the Viera. I chose to believe they want to make these fixes but it is slow, and frankly embarrassing.
I put my blind & delusional faith in the idea things should look better soon. Just not soon enough.
Yknow what...call it what it is.....Hopeium
Im not afraid to say it.

A lot of people are just not into the full on beast thing. When it's a male character, people can justify it by 'cool' factor.

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