Hrothgar Feedback Thread

[Adamantini]

I'm here to offer my support. Of all the races, hrothgar is by far the most limited.

What's funnier is that Yosh P himself says (if I remember well) that Hrothgar was always a race he wanted to put in the game, as he wanted a more bestial race. I think that desire was not that great. The race is poorly chosen among players, but is it just because it is unpopular? I know many friends who became hrothgar at launch, but after months, years of neglect, they simply reverted back to another race.

[Kolsykol]

I'm here to offer my support. Of all the races, hrothgar is by far the most limited.

What's funnier is that Yosh P himself says (if I remember well) that Hrothgar was always a race he wanted to put in the game, as he wanted a more bestial race. I think that desire was not that great. The race is poorly chosen among players, but is it just because it is unpopular? I know many friends who became hrothgar at launch, but after months, years of neglect, they simply reverted back to another race.

I think a beastial race is always going to be less popular.
Charr in GW2 and Tauren in WoW aren't popular either they're quite rare to come across ( will people have a mental breakdown again cuz I mentioned WoW LOL? ).
Even less so female ones they're almost non-existent.

Not saying they should be neglected because of that.
But even if say they just solved all of the issues I don't think the playerbase for them would increase much long-term.
Maybe short term there would be a bump but then people would just go back again I think.

[Chie_M]

I think a beastial race is always going to be less popular.
Charr in GW2 and Tauren in WoW aren't popular either they're quite rare to come across ( will people have a mental breakdown again cuz I mentioned WoW LOL? ).
Even less so female ones they're almost non-existent.

Not saying they should be neglected because of that.
But even if say they just solved all of the issues I don't think the playerbase for them would increase much long-term.
Maybe short term there would be a bump but then people would just go back again I think.

I can't speak to GW2, but as a former female Tauren (yes, I'm expecting people to have a mental breakdown at the WoW talk too lmao), part of the reason they're so off-putting is that they give off major dairy heifer / breeding sow vibes. The males look like bulls, which is great - it suits a hero, an adventurer. But the design of the females leans too heavily into farmyard tropes for female cattle, and makes them look like docile barnyard creatures. It was hard to find an adequate transmog to make my Druid look fierce - so much so that I mostly stayed in kitty form.

Anyway, I guess I'm concerned SE is going to do to Hrothgar what Blizz did to Tauren. I'm worried we'll end up with catgirls and hirsute catgirls.

[Denji]

I can't speak to GW2, but as a former female Tauren (yes, I'm expecting people to have a mental breakdown at the WoW talk too lmao), part of the reason they're so off-putting is that they give off major dairy heifer / breeding sow vibes. The males look like bulls, which is great - it suits a hero, an adventurer. But the design of the females leans too heavily into farmyard tropes for female cattle, and makes them look like docile barnyard creatures. It was hard to find an adequate transmog to make my Druid look fierce - so much so that I mostly stayed in kitty form.

Anyway, I guess I'm concerned SE is going to do to Hrothgar what Blizz did to Tauren. I'm worried we'll end up with catgirls and hirsute catgirls.

you can blame the straight dudes back in the day for that lmao.

back in the day, the og female tauren and trolls looked a lot more like what one would imagine... and the nerds rioted and cried how they can't jerk to it. i'm not even joking. so blizz desu-fied them and made them far far more feminine.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

I can't speak to GW2, but as a former female Tauren (yes, I'm expecting people to have a mental breakdown at the WoW talk too lmao), part of the reason they're so off-putting is that they give off major dairy heifer / breeding sow vibes. The males look like bulls, which is great - it suits a hero, an adventurer. But the design of the females leans too heavily into farmyard tropes for female cattle, and makes them look like docile barnyard creatures. It was hard to find an adequate transmog to make my Druid look fierce - so much so that I mostly stayed in kitty form.

Good points, i'm sure, but of course the biggest reason for female beast character unpopularity is the lack of jiggling mammaries (for charr anyway, don't remember if tauren had those).

[Chie_M]

Good points, i'm sure, but of course the biggest reason for female beast character unpopularity is the lack of jiggling mammaries (for charr anyway, don't remember if tauren had those).

You're likely very correct.

[SturmChurro]

Good points, i'm sure, but of course the biggest reason for female beast character unpopularity is the lack of jiggling mammaries (for charr anyway, don't remember if tauren had those).

A lot of people are just not into the full on beast thing. When it's a male character, people can justify it by 'cool' factor.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

A lot of people are just not into the full on beast thing. When it's a male character, people can justify it by 'cool' factor.

Yes, but if the beasties had titties, they'd be instantly more popular (more or less), which i find strange. I mean, i don't have anything against them (except specifically on a beast race) but it is kind of an obsession for some.

Also, wouldn't being ferocious beast be "cool" on a female character too? Sure it would be and having breasts or not would be irrelevant, unless you're looking to make an ERP character or something.

And, as always, SE has the solution that they made years ago and only once utilized, namely, the clan function. They could use it to make two different versions of them, one less beastly and one properly beastly. Too bad it's too late for that, since the males already have set a precedent with what they got, not to mention that they never did anything with it for the other races (other than that one time).

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Also, wouldn't being ferocious beast be "cool" on a female character too?

This is exactly why I want Female Hrothgar myself.
I want to play a "cool" Beastgirl. As much as I love my FemRoe and my Male Hrothgar beastman, I want to play a Female Beastman.
Nothing to do with anything other then I think it would be cool, and fun. No shortage of pretty human-looking characters. I want to be part of the Niche crowd of Non-humans.