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    TabrisOmbrelame's Avatar
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    Bot in NN chat really got out of control

    I don't know about other server, but on Moogle, we just witnessed a huuuuuuuge invasion of bot through the NN spamming "000" in the chat.

    Thanks to many Mentor, this invasion was dealt with quite quickly, but Bot can't enter the Novice Network on their own, therefore, a Mentor had obviously done that. Inviting this much of bot in such a short amount of time can only be done with malicious intent (I won't believe that the mentor who did that was unaware of this, especially while looking at all those random character nickname they have).

    Therefore, I suggest to add a "Log" to allow mentors exclusively to see who invited who in the channel, who "kicked" who in the channel, etc etc... This can help us to report those unworthy mentors who have nothing more to do than griefing a usefull channel for newbies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame View Post
    Thanks to many Mentor, this invasion was dealt with quite quickly
    probably the first and only time a mentor has ever done anything useful in this game


    Quote Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame View Post
    but Bot can't enter the Novice Network on their own, therefore, a Mentor had obviously done that. Inviting this much of bot in such a short amount of time can only be done with malicious intent
    that sounds like the typical mentor in this game, i've said it since it was first introduced and i'll say it again the mentor/NN adds nothing of value to FF14 and should be removed from the game
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    Renalt El'doran
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    I really don't get the mentor hate. On Faerie it must be vastly different cause we always help those that ask and do it quickly.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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    Just some questions here:

    -Estimated amount of bots?

    -All invited sprouts/returners also bots?

    -anybody took note of how many mentors were on at that time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    probably the first and only time a mentor has ever done anything useful in this game




    that sounds like the typical mentor in this game, i've said it since it was first introduced and i'll say it again the mentor/NN adds nothing of value to FF14 and should be removed from the game
    There's actually a lot more good mentors than bad. The bad ones are just very vocal and loud. Doesn't help when you just place a hate label on them all like that.
    /shrug

    NN on Crystal are typically very helpful and answer questions quite often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
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    You seems to hold a grudge against mentor, I don't know the reason, and I don't care.

    This is not the subject here.

    Bots are a plague that need to be dealt with, usually they don't go in the NN which means the problem is taking huge proportion and is not being controlled properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Just some questions here:

    -Estimated amount of bots?

    -All invited sprouts/returners also bots?

    -anybody took note of how many mentors were on at that time?
    - Around 50-60 have been banned in the first 15 minute, and by the time I write this, it's not even stopping. (We maybe over 100 by now, but somehow they still come, even tho the influx as decreased by now. As I said, invitation can only be done by a Mentor, which mean it was in a griefing purpose)

    - All bot got the sprouts icon, not the returners.

    - Many mentor were on the channel, I'd said that maybe around 10 were actively banning them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    I really don't get the mentor hate. On Faerie it must be vastly different cause we always help those that ask and do it quickly.
    Salty people are being salty.
    True that some mentors are also salty, but many who are active in the NN are there to help out new players. Then you get people like the one above your post who are probably the kind who treat mentors badly.
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    So a newly made account doesn't get invited to the Novice Network automatically? Also if it is in fact a mentor inviting them, it could be a compromised account that the bots are now using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    So a newly made account doesn't get invited to the Novice Network automatically?
    No, sprouts have to be invited. I do believe returning players get a window pop up after logging in to join the NN though. There are a lot of sprouts that don't even know NN exist.
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