Housing sucks rn!

[ballprince]

This will absolutely be my last lotto in any way shape or form until something is fixed. I'm tired of going to every plot, seeing 30+ people on ANY GIVEN plot, and knowing my chances will be slim to none. I understand with the demand there is that there will be a lot of people wanting to get in, but it leads me to the question of WHY?

Why is this artificial demand even HERE? To everyone who will say "Oh but you have apartments!" Yeah, thanks, I sure do want the dumbed down, baby version of the system that I cannot use outdoor furniture in, nor more than like what, 20 pieces of furniture? Apartment sizes and restrictions are a joke, and they are certainly not a fix to this housing problem right now.

It feels like, to me, the lottery is just worse off. Sure, I really appreciate not having to sit and click a plaque for hours, but this isn't much better if you ask me!

I really hope sooner rather than later they fix the split between FC and Personals. It feels really bad to go into FC wards, see them empty or see everyone who was grandfathered into the system. I'm not particularly upset abt the grandfathering, in most cases, but it still is frustrating to see. This is a draw for a LOT of people to this game at end game!

Also, I don't really want to hear "Well housing started as FC only!" I don't care what it started as. I care about the needs and wants of people within the game IN CURRENT YEAR.

TLDR: Lost my housing for the third time and this is my last lotto until they fix the system. It is NOT working.

[Brygd]

Unless you need the gil, I do not recommend stopping use of the lottery system. For every lottery entry, SE has another data point that their current housing supply is inadequate. If there are members of the dev team advocating for more resources for housing, every extra entry is another point to tell the decision makers that there is interest and player demand for housing.

I too am a 0 and 3 lottery player and not loving it. That said, as long as there are mediums I can bid on, I will.

[dspguy]

For every lottery entry, SE has another data point that their current housing supply is inadequate.

I don't think that can be emphasized enough. It is one thing for players to complain about aspects of the game, but generally speaking, people only report the negative and rarely the positive. They wouldn't know how many players actually wanted housing. But they have real data points now.

If people don't use the lottery system, they can just assume the problem is fixed.

[ballprince]

I don't think that can be emphasized enough. It is one thing for players to complain about aspects of the game, but generally speaking, people only report the negative and rarely the positive. They wouldn't know how many players actually wanted housing. But they have real data points now.

If people don't use the lottery system, they can just assume the problem is fixed.

While I kind of agree with both of you, I am also of the mind that this is gil I can be using for other things and don't need locked away for a a few days. But I think I'll leave it up to how the plots look in these next few cycles. Appreciate y'all comments and feedback, gives me a lot to think about.

I think it's a really unfortunate mix right now of continued unhappiness, and this switch to lottery making it very apparent to everyone else how hard it was, and is to get housing.

Here's to hoping luck comes to those of us who have been missed by it so far though!

[Illmaeran]

It is one thing for players to complain about aspects of the game, but generally speaking, people only report the negative and rarely the positive.

Would you want to admit to winning a plot in this current environment? I sure wouldn't.

[george357]

don't care to much about the new system i got my houses before this bad system went into effect.

[Avoidy]

Would you want to admit to winning a plot in this current environment? I sure wouldn't.

To be fair, a lot of homeowners in this game have 0 self awareness and will actually enter a conversation where people are ranting and upset just to be like "I don't care about this new system because I won back when it was easy" or spend all day dancing in front of their placard while losers come to collect their Gil. I think most people know that they can be banned for saying mean things to each other up front, but the housing system gives them a kind of outlet to be dicks so they just use it. Even before this system, you'd get a new ward opening and people would relocate a dozen times just to screw with other players. A lot of people in this game literally just get a home so they can lord it over people who were unlucky. I've been sort of observing the housing community for a while and some of the stuff I've seen makes other more toxic game communities look like a kindergarten park. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone jumped into a room full of sad/bitter people just to say "Well I won today, haha!" and leave.

[MaeveHatesHousing]

To be fair, a lot of homeowners in this game have 0 self awareness and will actually enter a conversation where people are ranting and upset just to be like "I don't care about this new system because I won back when it was easy" or spend all day dancing in front of their placard while losers come to collect their Gil. I think most people know that they can be banned for saying mean things to each other up front, but the housing system gives them a kind of outlet to be dicks so they just use it. Even before this system, you'd get a new ward opening and people would relocate a dozen times just to screw with other players. A lot of people in this game literally just get a home so they can lord it over people who were unlucky. I've been sort of observing the housing community for a while and some of the stuff I've seen makes other more toxic game communities look like a kindergarten park. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone jumped into a room full of sad/bitter people just to say "Well I won today, haha!" and leave.

the personal literally above you did exactly that.

[Divinemights]

To be fair, a lot of homeowners in this game have 0 self awareness and will actually enter a conversation where people are ranting and upset just to be like "I don't care about this new system because I won back when it was easy" or spend all day dancing in front of their placard while losers come to collect their Gil. I think most people know that they can be banned for saying mean things to each other up front, but the housing system gives them a kind of outlet to be dicks so they just use it. Even before this system, you'd get a new ward opening and people would relocate a dozen times just to screw with other players. A lot of people in this game literally just get a home so they can lord it over people who were unlucky. I've been sort of observing the housing community for a while and some of the stuff I've seen makes other more toxic game communities look like a kindergarten park. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone jumped into a room full of sad/bitter people just to say "Well I won today, haha!" and leave.

I loved how people like yourself confused the re-claiming process for demolished plot with claiming process for fresh plot release.
TDLR, they are not same thing.
In each major plot release in the past, as long as one is not dumb enough to go for so called the dream plot, they can claim a small plot if they put a tiny effort by set alarm clock
No one ask you or think keep clicking a placard, jeeze.

[Lexi_Krallphekter]

In my humble opinion, I feel the lottery system is far better than the previous system.

What SE should do in my opnion are 2 things:

• Reduce the FC wards
• Reenable auto-demonlish. I am myself from Ukraine but I live in the comfort of Belgium now and I feel the decision to suspend auto-demolition for the following reason: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8b104d6a595126 was not a correct one. It was a nice gesture. A war in my home country should not have being the reason for this decision.

Edit: I heard the main issue for adding more wards is the server capacity, if 1 person is in a ward, the whole ward is loaded onto the server. So maybe a 3rd thing SE could do, buy more servers? I think we shouldn't be cry babies in the first place and try too be reasonable. SE already did a massive server upgrade with EW. I feel they deserve some breathing and let them analyse future data too see if housing servers could eventually be upgraded? I am little bit tired of seeing soo much crying on this forum