"Free Company Houses" should not exist, they only encourage "personal/solo FC's"

[Lihtleita]

They explained it as being "your personal space where your minions can run around", so idk how that can be interpreted as anything other than being an instance.

it could literally be an 8bit tamagotchi screen and fill those parameters is what im saying. it could literally be lords of verminion with a custom backdrop.

[Seraphor]

They're a Karen because.. *checks notes* they want to utilize an advertise feature of a game that they & everyone else pays for monthly/yearly? For a system that is incredibly flawed and has been going on for years? Ok.

The system is incredibly flawed. Agreed
People are perfectly entitled to want to be able to use it, to want it to function better than it does.

Unfortunately magic isn't real and no amount of screaming to JUST DO IT NO EXCUSES will actually get it done.
If they could do it, they would have done it.
None of you have ever worked a service job and it shows.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

The system is incredibly flawed. Agreed
People are perfectly entitled to want to be able to use it, to want it to function better than it does.

Unfortunately magic isn't real and no amount of screaming to JUST DO IT NO EXCUSES will actually get it done.

Sure, neither will being understanding and quiet either. If the community accepted 'it cant be done' we wouldn't have some of the things we have now. Yoshi P didn't even want bun bois to be a thing. Forums are for feedback. If it is appropriate to bitch anywhere, it's here. Most critical posts are not just REEEEEEEE they have some valid points to them.

It's pretty fair imo to get tired of hearing excuses for problems that have been a thing for years. I love our dev team but SE as a whole is a greedy company. Who is to say they couldn't have provided us with what we ask for? FFXIV is one of their biggest earners and it feels underserved atm.

[Seraphor]

Sure, neither will being understanding and quiet either. If the community accepted 'it cant be done' we wouldn't have some of the things we have now. Yoshi P didn't even want bun bois to be a thing. Forums are for feedback. If it is appropriate to bitch anywhere, it's here. Most critical posts are not just REEEEEEEE they have some valid points to them.

It's pretty fair imo to get tired of hearing excuses for problems that have been a thing for years. I love our dev team but SE as a whole is a greedy company. Who is to say they couldn't have provided us with what we ask for? FFXIV is one of their biggest earners and it feels underserved atm.

Absolutely correct, I'm not ranting about legitimate criticism here. I was literally replying to someone who said "GET IT DONE NO EXCUSES"

If you make your criticism shrill, ignorant and demanding, it's not going to be taken seriously.

[Padudu]

The system is incredibly flawed. Agreed
People are perfectly entitled to want to be able to use it, to want it to function better than it does.

Unfortunately magic isn't real and no amount of screaming to JUST DO IT NO EXCUSES will actually get it done.
If they could do it, they would have done it.
None of you have ever worked a service job and it shows.

lol, I literally work a service job. Sometimes two during the summer! I love my customers too! But when my company/employees fail on some things, I don't make excuses. I don't tell customers, "Sorry you've experienced this problem, but that's just the way it is, deal with it".

SE is, quite literally, a multimillion dollar company, so how many years do you want them to ride out the "we can't handle it, sorry fam." If they can't, maybe don't implement it to begin with. We pay for a service, so like.. we can reasonably be upset about some things. Sure, people can word things nicer, but then you have the whole healer fiasco which went as: "Hey, as a healer, things are easy, can you make it difficult and engaging for us too?" and they get hit with: "You want engaging content, go play ultimate". Is that good customer service to you? So why then, is it acceptable for SE to constantly handwave the housing issue with "servers can't handle it". We have apartments, we have instanced content, among other implementations, that are incoming. Its not like this is a brand new issue either.

Well if you are new and part of an FC atm you have and have had a prio on wards now and previously. Any FC who has wanted a house realistically should have had one on all but the most bursting of servers. So the question then would be why the salt over personal? Esp atm when they are relegated to a few wards.

But even that feels like nit picking, I rather we can all just have a house that we can upgrade into larger sizes and with a more realistic item limit for large plots because 400 is a joke. Housing could be such a huge draw for this game if they spent the time on it, lets yoink some of those sims players over here...

With a push for this game being more solo, it doesn't surprise me that people want personals more than FC housing tbh. Especially if:
1) You're in a FC already, but the lead/officers don't let you decorate/garden/airship/blahblah
2) You don't want to join a FC solely for the house (I join mine for social reasons, for example, the house is the bonus).

So that leads you either with - personal, or making a FC suited for you and maybe a small group of friends, which in the end.. yeah, boils down to "you shouldn't have to". But yeah I agree upgrades would be good, the 400 item limit gets eaten up quick. Ideally, I just want a way to remove the bottom/columns and just making it plain or customizable. I mean part of that item limit gets eaten up by people trying to cover it up lol

it could literally be an 8bit tamagotchi screen and fill those parameters is what im saying. it could literally be lords of verminion with a custom backdrop.

Lords of Verminion is an instance lol - also go relook at the live letter; it's doubtful it's be the 8bit tamagotchi screen. I know we like to yoga stretch here, but c'mon now.

[Jillian]

Why do almost all of these topics that offer suggestions to solve the housing crisis aim to punish the players who already have houses? FC Housing should not be taken away and neither should personal housing. Poor, tiny, small indie company SE needs to do something like implement instanced housing. Stop trying to punish players for SE's inadequate housing system.

[Seraphor]

lol, I literally work a service job. Sometimes two during the summer! I love my customers too! But when my company/employees fail on some things, I don't make excuses. I don't tell customers, "Sorry you've experienced this problem, but that's just the way it is, deal with it".

SE is, quite literally, a multimillion dollar company, so how many years do you want them to ride out the "we can't handle it, sorry fam." If they can't, maybe don't implement it to begin with. We pay for a service, so like.. we can reasonably be upset about some things. Sure, people can word things nicer, but then you have the whole healer fiasco which went as: "Hey, as a healer, things are easy, can you make it difficult and engaging for us too?" and they get hit with: "You want engaging content, go play ultimate". Is that good customer service to you? So why then, is it acceptable for SE to constantly handwave the housing issue with "servers can't handle it". We have apartments, we have instanced content, among other implementations, that are incoming. Its not like this is a brand new issue either.

And yet you're displaying a ton of reductionist and frankly selfish mentality here.

When Housing was implemented, it was fit for purpose, it wasn't however futureproof. That was an oversight, but "just don't make it to begin with" isn't a solution. People have already engaged with the system. What do you expect them to do? Remove all the houses people have already obtained in order to "just not do it at all"?
They don't have the resources to "just add more servers", and what resources they do have they're spending on adding more general server capacity because if you didn't notice, the game was bursting at the seams at Endwalkers release. It took them 3 months to add the Oceanic servers, another 3 for the additional EU servers this summer, and then more US servers next year too. (each of these come with their fair share of additional housing servers too btw)
You're not seeing the whole picture here, you're just looking at how it affects you and complaining when you are inconvenienced.

"Hey, as a healer, things are easy, can you make it difficult and engaging for us too?"
Unfortunately the gameplay has to be balanced for a range of player skills, and as we've already seen by complaints that "solo duties are too hard", the lowest common denominator is sadly getting lower and lower. They have to keep everyone happy, which is an impossible task, because you can't keep everyone happy all the time. the best you can do when you have such a large consumer base is to keep some of the people happy some of the time.
The game has a range of content at different difficulties, making the base game any harder will alienate players, so if you want difficult content, you need to play the difficult content. What a crazy concept.

[Padudu]

And yet you're displaying a ton of reductionist and frankly selfish mentality here.

Selfish because I frankly don't like what SE has been doing lately? Sure, call me selfish I guess lol.

When Housing was implemented, it was fit for purpose, it wasn't however futureproof. That was an oversight, but "just don't make it to begin with" isn't a solution. People have already engaged with the system. What do you expect them to do? Remove all the houses people have already obtained in order to "just not do it at all"?
You're not seeing the whole picture here, you're just looking at how it affects you and complaining.

True, it was an oversight. Personal housing, IMO, should just have not been implemented to begin with :P Or if they were; didn't make it to compete with FCs. And yes, if all SE can do is just throw bandaids at a problem, then maybe they just shouldn't just.. implement it. Just like they shouldn't have added Viera/Hrothgar if it's "too hard to accomodate for their models". Sorry that's hard to hear for you lol.

Also, I never said to remove houses - like I said before, SE put themselves in this corner, it's too late to go back and remove houses at this point since it's such a grounded feature for many, many people. So either the solutions (in my mind is): to add more wards (lol), or instanced housing (also lol), two things which will either take about until 2025 for them to add, or for them to never add at all. So here we are.

"Hey, as a healer, things are easy, can you make it difficult and engaging for us too?"
Unfortunately the gameplay has to be balanced for a range of player skills, and as we've already seen by complaints that "solo duties are too hard", the lowest common denominator is sadly getting lower and lower. They have to keep everyone happy, which is an impossible task, because you can't keep everyone happy all the time. the best you can do when you have such a large consumer base is to keep some of the people happy some of the time.
The game has a range of content at different difficulties, making the base game any harder will alienate players, so if you want difficult content, you need to play the difficult content.

Yeah, that's just all about I had to hear from you to know that you're okay with SE's constant excuse upon excuse lol. When you can literally SIT there as a healer feeling like you have nothing to do or that you don't contribute to a party in any way that's not ultimate content, that's a problem. Telling people, who want to enjoy regular content with a bit more of an oomph to "just do ultimate", is not a good customer service response period. It is handwaving their concerns.

[Seraphor]

Yeah, that's just all about I had to hear from you to know that you're okay with SE's constant excuse upon excuse lol. When you can literally SIT there as a healer feeling like you have nothing to do or that you don't contribute to a party in any way that's not ultimate content, that's a problem. Telling people, who want to enjoy regular content with a bit more of an oomph to "just do ultimate", is not a good customer service response period. It is handwaving their concerns.

"Screw all the players who want content they can manage, I'm more important."

[Padudu]

"Screw all the players who want content they can manage, I'm more important."

I'm sorry to hear that's all you can take away from all that lol