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    My setup is Core i9-12900K, G.Skill TridentZ Neo 32GB DDR4-3200 CL14 (Samsung B-die), RTX 3080 Ti. RAM settings score

    3200mhz 14-14-14-34 = 27896 , min 91, average 191.8 FPS
    4000mhz 16-16-16-36 = 29581 , min 103, average 199.35 FPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by TristanX View Post
    My setup is Core i9-12900K, G.Skill TridentZ Neo 32GB DDR4-3200 CL14 (Samsung B-die), RTX 3080 Ti. RAM settings score

    3200mhz 14-14-14-34 = 27896 , min 91, average 191.8 FPS
    4000mhz 16-16-16-36 = 29581 , min 103, average 199.35 FPS
    Would you mind giving more details on your resolution and quality setting?
    I'm going to put together two new systems this summer for playing FFXIV on 32" 4K monitors at 144 FPS+ with max bling, and I'd like to make sure the systems have enough GPU and CPU horsepower to get the job done.

    Thanks in advance, to anyone who provides info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Would you mind giving more details on your resolution and quality setting?
    I'm going to put together two new systems this summer for playing FFXIV on 32" 4K monitors at 144 FPS+ with max bling, and I'd like to make sure the systems have enough GPU and CPU horsepower to get the job done.
    I'm running 2560x1440 Full Screen at Maximum. My Core i9-12900K also got OCTVB +2 enabled from my Asus ROG Strix Z690-A D4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TristanX View Post
    I'm running 2560x1440 Full Screen at Maximum. My Core i9-12900K also got OCTVB +2 enabled from my Asus ROG Strix Z690-A D4.
    Thanks. Based on your data on mem speed, I'll probably go with DDR5 instead of DDR4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Thanks. Based on your data on mem speed, I'll probably go with DDR5 instead of DDR4.
    DDR5 will be very expensive in the beginning. And CPUs with huge caches can propably mitigate a little bit slower memory. The Ryzen 5800 X3D is such a CPU. But i do not know how well FF14 performs on that CPU.

    And seriously, when the game runs with 100 fps minimum framerate, it is surely fast enough.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Thanks. Based on your data on mem speed, I'll probably go with DDR5 instead of DDR4.
    DDR5 doesn't give much performance boost due to high latency. Pricing is high as well.
    https://www.techpowerup.com/review/d...mance-scaling/

    I would think it needs at least DDR5-6400 CL32 to get there. There is DDR5-8400 coming as well.
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/15699/sk-hynix-ddr5-8400
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    It seems, that Final Fantasy 14 performs extremly good with the AMD Ryzen 5800 X3D:
    https://www.club386.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-review/

    But unfortunately, it is also an indication, that the game is not optimized very well. Good optimized engines will try to put all or most of their "hot code" into the CPU cache. Either the "hot code" of the FF14 engine is really huge, so it does not fit into the cache of most CPUs. Or they did not implement such optimizations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagget View Post
    Best CPU for FFXIV seems to be the AMD Ryzen 5800X3D - game loves the extra L3 cache

    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    It seems, that Final Fantasy 14 performs extremly good with the AMD Ryzen 5800 X3D:
    https://www.club386.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-review/

    But unfortunately, it is also an indication, that the game is not optimized very well. Good optimized engines will try to put all or most of their "hot code" into the CPU cache. Either the "hot code" of the FF14 engine is really huge, so it does not fit into the cache of most CPUs. Or they did not implement such optimizations.


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    CPU becomes less dependant when monitor resolution is higher. People with high end rigs most likely will have 1440p or 4k. The bottleneck shifts to the graphic card more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TristanX View Post
    My setup is Core i9-12900K, G.Skill TridentZ Neo 32GB DDR4-3200 CL14 (Samsung B-die), RTX 3080 Ti. RAM settings score

    3200mhz 14-14-14-34 = 27896 , min 91, average 191.8 FPS
    4000mhz 16-16-16-36 = 29581 , min 103, average 199.35 FPS
    And i guess, this is the reason why so many people have stability problems only with this game. Their RAM or the RAM-MoBo-connection is faulty or the have too sharp RAM timings and the game crashes randomly. Other applications do not crash because they do not strain the RAM subsystem so much like FF14.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    And i guess, this is the reason why so many people have stability problems only with this game. Their RAM or the RAM-MoBo-connection is faulty or the have too sharp RAM timings and the game crashes randomly. Other applications do not crash because they do not strain the RAM subsystem so much like FF14.


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    I gave my RAM unrealistic stress after tuning. Rock stable.

    Many things can go wrong if someone encountered stability issues. Not only the RAM.
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