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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzalis View Post
    Some of those make total sense to be attached (Ex: The Arachne Top). That said, I agree sometimes they make weird design decisions in how they separate the items. The Rak'tika gear always stood out to me because the top completely covers the bottoms for the full set anyway.
    As I was saying earlier though, having it on the chest piece affects how it sits and how it moves. Skirts attached to the chest piece can sit out wider and fuller. Long skirts in the leg slot (eg. Spring Skirt, Eikon Cloth mage skirts) tend to look flat and narrow by comparison.

    Also, given that we don't have separate control over the waist section of the outfit, I do like having the matching top and sash with the ability to pick what legwear goes underneath it. If they put the sash on the pants, it would be harder to have that coordination but also variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    As I was saying earlier though, having it on the chest piece affects how it sits and how it moves. Skirts attached to the chest piece can sit out wider and fuller. Long skirts in the leg slot (eg. Spring Skirt, Eikon Cloth mage skirts) tend to look flat and narrow by comparison.

    Also, given that we don't have separate control over the waist section of the outfit, I do like having the matching top and sash with the ability to pick what legwear goes underneath it. If they put the sash on the pants, it would be harder to have that coordination but also variety.
    I definitely understand that. They have to make a lot of considerations for how it interacts with other armor, but things like the first one and the two Rak'tika outfits just don't make a ton of sense.

    Things like:

    The bottom half of that *is* legwear. It even has a clean separation already. They do stick out a little further, but if they'd been designed as legwear from the get go, they'd have made them stick a little closer to the legs like other legwear skirts we do have in the game.
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    Last edited by Arzalis; 06-09-2022 at 04:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzalis View Post
    They do stick out a little further, but if they'd been designed as legwear from the get go, they'd have made them stick a little closer to the legs like other legwear skirts we do have in the game.
    That's the thing, though. I think the skirts look fantastic as they are, but would risk look underwhelming if built as legwear.

    I do think they need to make more variant versions of tops in the current system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I do think they need to make more variant versions of tops in the current system.
    This and the poster above you are probably the solution. More variants or a toggle somehow. Personally I want just the tops on some sets for the variety with other gear. Might also solve a lot of complaints I have with SE just putting so much random stuff on gear. I like details, but they tend to go a bit overboard and have like 500 whatsits dangling around a piece of gear.
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    As I was saying earlier though, having it on the chest piece affects how it sits and how it moves. Skirts attached to the chest piece can sit out wider and fuller. Long skirts in the leg slot (eg. Spring Skirt, Eikon Cloth mage skirts) tend to look flat and narrow by comparison.

    Also, given that we don't have separate control over the waist section of the outfit, I do like having the matching top and sash with the ability to pick what legwear goes underneath it. If they put the sash on the pants, it would be harder to have that coordination but also variety.
    While attaching them to the top will allow for fuller and wider skirts, maybe we should get some caster armor that doesn't have 20 pounds of skirt on it. There are some some skirt less glamour options for casters but they definitely seem to be in the minority of choices.
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    give us a visor type option to get rid of the skirt so that those who want it can keep it, and those who don't can remove it. i know SE won't do it, but one can dream, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Leg armor exists for a reason, please stop applying skirts to chest pieces that covers it up.
    Edit: wrong quote, sorry.

    Sir, I will have you know, my balls need to breathe. Have you worn leg armor in the desert? They stick to the leg armor like cellophane!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    Edit: wrong quote, sorry.

    Sir, I will have you know, my balls need to breathe. Have you worn leg armor in the desert? They stick to the leg armor like cellophane!
    Lol when your pants sound like someone unrolling duct tape when you take them off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Lol when your pants sound like someone unrolling duct tape when you take them off...
    An unintentional waxing takes place. People joke about how us cat-boys have no hair on our chest. Well, y'all know how it happens now.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    By the same metric, we really need less longboots, too. Between chest armor draping down and thigh-high foot armor, "leg armor" just turns into a misnomer for... well, the deprecated "waist armor."
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