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    Deceptus Keelon
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    A Simple Request: Please Stop Putting Skirts on Chest Armor

    Leg armor exists for a reason, please stop applying skirts to chest pieces that covers it up.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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    Boo Box
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    Ah, fellow healer, I feel your pain. Robes, butt-capes, dresses, long-coats....this is the price we pay for wanting to keep our party alive.

    I long for the day that glamours are unlocked between all jobs. Just think of the variety!
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Leg armor exists for a reason
    Leg armour exists so we can wear skirts AND leggings underneath, because the gear designers don't seem to believe in doing that for legwear skirts.

    But seriously, I think the thing is with the structure of the base gear model. Skirts built into the top can sit further out and look nicer than legwear skirts, because leg pieces have to sit inside the bounds of the chest piece cape/robe/skirt.

    Leg skirts can't stick out too far or they suffer the fate of the Quaintrelle's Skirt.
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    Severian Lyonesse
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    If only we had a slot for skirts that was separate from chest and legs.

    Something like...I don't know...a belt slot...

    (jk I hated that, glad it's gone. Just because there are like 2.5 tops I wish could separate from the skirt would not justify how useless belts were.)
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Leg armor exists for a reason, please stop applying skirts to chest pieces that covers it up.
    I could agree that it would be nice if they were being added to fewer body pieces, it shouldn't stopped all together. Those "skirts" were fairly common in historical armor sets and they were frequently attached to the chest piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    If only we had a slot for skirts that was separate from chest and legs.

    Something like...I don't know...a belt slot...

    (jk I hated that, glad it's gone. Just because there are like 2.5 tops I wish could separate from the skirt would not justify how useless belts were.)
    I wish so very much that they had used the belt slot to manage visible waist pieces. Have it prone to disappearing when combined with long body pieces if need be, like sashes do now, but give us control over it.
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    Kemi Epoc
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    Some of those make total sense to be attached (Ex: The Arachne Top). That said, I agree sometimes they make weird design decisions in how they separate the items. The Rak'tika gear always stood out to me because the top completely covers the bottoms for the full set anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzalis View Post
    Some of those make total sense to be attached (Ex: The Arachne Top). That said, I agree sometimes they make weird design decisions in how they separate the items. The Rak'tika gear always stood out to me because the top completely covers the bottoms for the full set anyway.
    As I was saying earlier though, having it on the chest piece affects how it sits and how it moves. Skirts attached to the chest piece can sit out wider and fuller. Long skirts in the leg slot (eg. Spring Skirt, Eikon Cloth mage skirts) tend to look flat and narrow by comparison.

    Also, given that we don't have separate control over the waist section of the outfit, I do like having the matching top and sash with the ability to pick what legwear goes underneath it. If they put the sash on the pants, it would be harder to have that coordination but also variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    As I was saying earlier though, having it on the chest piece affects how it sits and how it moves. Skirts attached to the chest piece can sit out wider and fuller. Long skirts in the leg slot (eg. Spring Skirt, Eikon Cloth mage skirts) tend to look flat and narrow by comparison.

    Also, given that we don't have separate control over the waist section of the outfit, I do like having the matching top and sash with the ability to pick what legwear goes underneath it. If they put the sash on the pants, it would be harder to have that coordination but also variety.
    I definitely understand that. They have to make a lot of considerations for how it interacts with other armor, but things like the first one and the two Rak'tika outfits just don't make a ton of sense.

    Things like:

    The bottom half of that *is* legwear. It even has a clean separation already. They do stick out a little further, but if they'd been designed as legwear from the get go, they'd have made them stick a little closer to the legs like other legwear skirts we do have in the game.
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    Last edited by Arzalis; 06-09-2022 at 04:31 AM.

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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I wish so very much that they had used the belt slot to manage visible waist pieces. Have it prone to disappearing when combined with long body pieces if need be, like sashes do now, but give us control over it.
    It was more upsetting seeing belt icons than anything else. I legit love sashes for example and can compliment some gear.
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