"Lack of content"... Minor housing rant

[Ket-Xil]

So the game philosophy has always been to not shackle the player to the game. God if someone says housing is a shackle I'ma go nuts. Yea let's remove the auto demolish completely, see how many inactive players get to keep their house. "Make instanced housing": so do people think in game instances are magical no-cost "things"? No, instances like EVERYTHING ELSE IN A PROGRAM has a size, a space it takes up. Please stop talking about instanced housing as if it's something that can easily be implemented without a hardware cost associated with it. (Yes I do have a technical background)

Sorry housing rant. Back on topic.

If you can't find the content, FFXIV is not for you. This game should not negate a core philosophy just to appease those who want this game to be something it isn't. You sound like the people who want a quest log in Elden Ring. Stop it. Touch digital grass in another MMO that will provide you with endlessly repeating content. Sorry to break it to you, but there is no possiblity developers come out with new content faster than people are completing it. Especially not if you want any form of quality.

[Skivvy]

We totally needed ANOTHER thread on this.

[anhaato]

Kizuya's impact is incredible as always

[Ket-Xil]

Of course we need another thread. Otherwise Kizuya will think the forum is dead.

[Theodric]

Ah, yes. Another thread where suggestions towards content being a tad more meaningful are countered with 'gO fInD aNoThEr MmO' as if that wasn't the exact sort of strange gatekeeping that contributed to the fall of a much more popular giant in the industry.

[Ket-Xil]

Ah, yes. Another thread where suggestions towards content being a tad more meaningful are countered with 'gO fInD aNoThEr MmO' as if that wasn't the exact sort of strange gatekeeping that contributed to the fall of a much more popular giant in the industry.

Hey, so you got an objective measure for meaningful?

[Ket-Xil]

Oh there really are a lot of threads on this, thought that was a meme. First day in like years of looking at forums. My bad this one doesnt need to exist

[Midareyukki]

Hey, so you got an objective measure for meaningful?

I'll do you one better: Why should you care?

To you, people may be demanding stuff without be realistic, which, valid point, but why are you so invested in going this far? To troll? Because if so, Icemage, you're forgiven. On second thought, no you're not, stay put...

Really. Whatever "meaningful" may be really doesn't matter much does it? You're still telling people who are complaining about content to move elsewhere. When in reality there are different ways of addressing this.

As you said, there's a limited amount of things they can do, technical-wise. But let's take Eureka and Bozja. Why stop at locking them at their respective expansions when they have so much potential? Why not continue the stories that they clearly want to continue in older areas? Why not add stuff like menus and all that to previous instances to not only liven up old content but also keep them relevant? Or, hell, why not try doing something that can evolve with time across expansions without them being a done deal? Blue Mage exists, it's a good start. Surely there's better stuff than Fellowships, yes?

You're going around being too defensive of the dev team. Just relax, realize that there's no point in making another thread and, idk, use your neurons? I'm sure you're gifted with some if you have technological know-how like you claim? You can come up with answers like those just as easily. And if you don't like anything I said, come up with some yourself. It really isn't hard.

[Ket-Xil]

I'll do you one better: Why should you care?

To you, people may be demanding stuff without be realistic, which, valid point, but why are you so invested in going this far? To troll? Because if so, Icemage, you're forgiven. On second thought, no you're not, stay put...

Really. Whatever "meaningful" may be really doesn't matter much does it? You're still telling people who are complaining about content to move elsewhere. When in reality there are different ways of addressing this.

As you said, there's a limited amount of things they can do, technical-wise. But let's take Eureka and Bozja. Why stop at locking them at their respective expansions when they have so much potential? Why not continue the stories that they clearly want to continue in older areas? Why not add stuff like menus and all that to previous instances to not only liven up old content but also keep them relevant? Or, hell, why not try doing something that can evolve with time across expansions without them being a done deal? Blue Mage exists, it's a good start. Surely there's better stuff than Fellowships, yes?

You're going around being too defensive of the dev team. Just relax, realize that there's no point in making another thread and, idk, use your neurons? I'm sure you're gifted with some if you have technological know-how like you claim? You can come up with answers like those just as easily. And if you don't like anything I said, come up with some yourself. It really isn't hard.

It's not about the current content itself but what people want the content to be. I'm reading the threads as people wanting something to constantly do everyday, and not about what the content actually is. Basically my interpretation is "we want an FPS in FFXIV". That isn't what FFXIV is as a game. It's always been optional sides with the only "required" content being msq. I agree with your point on Eureka especially because I really liked the story. But to continue would require man hours, software support, story support, assset support, etc. Nothing you add to a game stops being technical and will have an associated cost. Their focus should be first and foremost the main story because it is the basis the entire game revolves.

And I absolutely will defend the dev team not because of a specific love for them, but because I know how long a development cycle on products is because I'm an electrical design engineer. I work on projects with year long timelines on just 1 aspect of a system. It is incredibly unreasonable to expect a system as complex as a MMO can easily churn out enough new content for those who want something new.

I apologize for my first thread being one that has been reproducing like a rabbit. I see now how widespread it is and I shouldn't have added another. Not a real frequenter of the forums if my activity didn't already show. I simply started reading and wanted to remind people what the core philosophy of FFXIV is.

[Ket-Xil]

To you, people may be demanding stuff without be realistic, which, valid point, but why are you so invested in going this far? To troll? Because if so, Icemage, you're forgiven. On second thought, no you're not, stay put...

I have no idea what investment you think I've made and what Icemage means.