We lost 70% of our player base half a year in

[Lieri]

Did you say...
More chance of winning a house lottery and more chance of houses being demolished when the timer is resumed?
Then I'll say moooooreeee lose more!!!! lose 99%, everyone gets a house, a house for everyone!

[Reap00]

People have been saying make healers more engaging since Shadowbringers, and it’s been ignored.

People have been saying endgame is horrible with lack of content and it’s been ignored.

People want better hairstyles and headgears on the new races and it's been ignored.

After an ENTIRE year of receiving player feedback and FAILING to do what the community wants, now we have them scrambling to fix critical bugs after bugs like the housing lottery bug.

What a joke.

I wanted FF14 to thrive, I loved Stormblood but the game is dying and on it’s way out.

Square Enix, changes need to be made FAST.

NOT in 7.0, NOT in 8.0, it needs to happen THIS EXPANSION or you WILL lose the remaining player base.

Thanks for the schlock thread. FFXIV is doing fantastically well. It is easily the highest population sub mmo.

[LeonKeyh]

Thanks for the schlock thread. FFXIV is doing fantastically well. It is easily the highest population sub mmo.

Battle of the trolls!

[dspguy]

Cherrypicking a data point at the absolute high point and claiming the game is a disaster based on that single data point is misleading. What did the playerbase look like 7 months into ShB vs today (7 months into EW)?

That is like focusing on how the Dow Jones is 10% down from its peak but 10% up since Jan 2021. Depending which data point is your starting point, the situation is either really good really bad.

[Shougun]

Cherrypicking a data point at the absolute high point and claiming the game is a disaster based on that single data point is misleading. What did the playerbase look like 7 months into ShB vs today (7 months into EW)?

That is like focusing on how the Dow Jones is 10% down from its peak but 10% up since Jan 2021. Depending which data point is your starting point, the situation is either really good really bad.

I love those statistics you get on hot button topics.

"devastating statistic" source, 2009, 2012, first month of 2021 - only used the data from one particular city's sub district, applying the data to the entire country. Were the other years not available....? They were available? Oh then why are you not using them? No particular reason I'm sure. . .

Annoying too because usually such things discredit the ideas overall, when perhaps the core concept was fine but it got manipulated highly inappropriately to make it "more" outrageous.

[SturmChurro]

Thanks for the schlock thread. FFXIV is doing fantastically well. It is easily the highest population sub mmo.

What other sub mmos are still around anyway? All I can think of are this and WoW.

[Padudu]

What other sub mmos are still around anyway? All I can think of are this and WoW.

Doesn't EVE Online have one? RuneScape is pretty much subscription based if you want to enjoy any content at all (free to play is INCREDIBLY limited, you are locked out of half of the world lol).

[Absurdity]

Doesn't EVE Online have one? RuneScape is pretty much subscription based if you want to enjoy any content at all (free to play is INCREDIBLY limited, you are locked out of half of the world lol).

ESO is pretty much the same. Sure you can play for free, but the fact that the sub gives you an infinite inventory for crafting materials and access to all expansions except the current one makes the sub almost mandatory.


If we strictly look at the subscription then the ESO sub gives you more value for it's price than XIV's does.

[LeonKeyh]

What other sub mmos are still around anyway? All I can think of are this and WoW.

Depends on your definition (and you'd have to really stretch before doing your mental gymnastics here to argue that point).

Even a lot of "free to play" MMOs have subscriptions, and Given that FFXIV has a couple hundred hours worth of content for free, it's tough to define that.

Overall though, it's likely not true WoW likely still beats it out, but nobody knows because no MMOs really release active players.

[Absurdity]

Overall though, it's likely not true WoW likely still beats it out, but nobody knows because no MMOs really release active players.

XIV supposedly overtook WoW at some point last year, at the end of Shadowbringers. But considering that the massive influx of players has since died down, most likely due to most WoW players returning to their main game, I'd take a wild guess and say that WoW is back to being number 1.

At the end of the day we don't know, since we don't have accurate active subscription numbers for either game.