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    Now that the Omicrons are confirmed to be the 6.2 tribal quests, I imagine we'll learn more details about how the civilizations of the Dead Ends succumbed.

    I didn't draw any kind of connection between the Plenty and the path the Ancients were headed down initially and I still don't think their story was so simple as "Achieved perfection, no reason to live anymore". The visual storytelling really gave off more the vibe of a people who became so fixated on perfection that they starting throwing away everything in pursuit of it, right down to the very star itself and it's only after Meteion popped the question of "What do you live for?" that they realized their mistake.

    It's going to just end up making Venat look like a fool if their circumstances were more complicated then that after they suggested it was a significant factor in her reasoning for causing the Sundering, though.
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    Utopias are intrinsically a contradiction in terms (you can see this in the etymology of the word itself). Conflict comes from diversity. But diversity is also essential for survival. What might kill one individual might not even faze another. We all have different adaptations that give us individual strengths and weaknesses. If everyone thinks and acts the same way, a single setback is enough on its own to bring the entire civilization to its knees.

    One of the things that makes Omega different is because they seem to have developed their own sense of self distinct from the rest of the Omicrons. I think individuality is the main value being promoted here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Utopias are intrinsically a contradiction in terms (you can see this in the etymology of the word itself). Conflict comes from diversity. But diversity is also essential for survival. What might kill one individual might not even faze another. We all have different adaptations that give us individual strengths and weaknesses. If everyone thinks and acts the same way, a single setback is enough on its own to bring the entire civilization to its knees.

    One of the things that makes Omega different is because they seem to have developed their own sense of self distinct from the rest of the Omicrons. I think individuality is the main value being promoted here.
    That also carries over with the closing with Meteion. Every individual finds their own happiness. The omicrons giving up individuality made them susceptible to being wiped out since the one individual they had, Sir, met an existential roadblock.

    Hermes was looking for a unifying idea of happiness and meaning rather than looking for an individual one for himself. Though if he had actual depression no amount of reasoning would overcome that.
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    I find it ironic that for all the love he supposedly had for life, the "trial" Hermes decided to subject the Ancients to ended up wiping out countless species as well.

    It also makes me question what his take on the third sacrifice to Zodiark was, given that it would've been a gross violation of his moral standards. Did he simply abandon those ideas once he joined the Convocation in favor of adopting the same "for the greater good" mindset as everyone else?

    I'm kind of hoping we get some insight into that in a sidestory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I find it ironic that for all the love he supposedly had for life, the "trial" Hermes decided to subject the Ancients to ended up wiping out countless species as well.

    It also makes me question what his take on the third sacrifice to Zodiark was, given that it would've been a gross violation of his moral standards. Did he simply abandon those ideas once he joined the Convocation in favor of adopting the same "for the greater good" mindset as everyone else?

    I'm kind of hoping we get some insight into that in a sidestory.
    Hermes seems to be such a badly written mess that I don't think they can do anything with him that doesn't dig a deeper hole
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    I'm hoping we get to take Omega to Base Omicron or 'The Last Dregs' (to meet N-7000).

    Definitely some story/character development waiting to happen in that scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Hermes seems to be such a badly written mess that I don't think they can do anything with him that doesn't dig a deeper hole
    I know people like that is real life though. Speak about these values and beliefs they have and then get mad when you point out how many of their actions violate their own supposed beliefs.

    I am more annoyed by how the people around Hermes react to him and his craziness.
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    Isn't it technically the Warrior of Lights fault why this all happened. None of the ancients would have known at all if we didn't tell them. I always see people say Vaney was a gaslighter but we gas lit her with our tale. She probably made choices that felt like it best aligned to our story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    Isn't it technically the Warrior of Lights fault why this all happened. None of the ancients would have known at all if we didn't tell them. I always see people say Vaney was a gaslighter but we gas lit her with our tale. She probably made choices that felt like it best aligned to our story.
    Yeah us telling them anything was incredibly stupid of us.

    But Venat was all like 'nahh dude, sa'll good. Just hit me up with that info dump bro'

    And since mommy can do no wrong and must always be listened to, we did just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotica View Post
    Yeah us telling them anything was incredibly stupid of us.

    But Venat was all like 'nahh dude, sa'll good. Just hit me up with that info dump bro'

    And since mommy can do no wrong and must always be listened to, we did just that.
    Just gonna ignore the wizard threatening us with an interrogation I see.
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