Thread: Who knew the 6.15 Omega Quests… (Spoilers)

Originally Posted by SannaR

If they did actually restrain their power then I think it's in how strong of magics/abilities they can use. Which doesn't matter too much since the only time most convocation members quit is when they step down and take the retirement nap. It would be adjacent to any time a superhero with powers gets some kind of restraint placed on them or was given something that powers them down. Like the chip that was placed on Captain Marvel. She could still use her powers just not at full strength.

...I'm struggling to understand the logic here. If someone's power is restrained so that they can't use their full strength, then isn't that, by definition...a RESTRAINT?

Likewise, if the only time they are released of said restraints comes just before they literally die (of which Venat is noteworthy because she's an exception), then does that not mean that MOST Convocation members basically remain restrained for the rest of their lives?

Originally Posted by SannaR

It's like the difference between how Superman normally doesn't use his powers at full strength cause just punching someone like Lex Luther or the Riddler would most likely kill the person. Or like the times Goku is being even more of an airhead and doesn't realize he used more force than needed. Like if he thought he was only lightly poking a car but instead of a light touch that doesn't do anything the poke makes the car get flung down the road a few feet. It would be like how in the original version of Freeza meeting Goku; Goku is thought of to be really slow and thus not a threat. Which he is. Until he realizes that he's still wearing his very heavy weighted training top and takes it off and shows how fast he really is. Just because Goku can fight someone with said shirt on doesn't mean he's able to fight as good as he can without it on. Hope that makes more sense.

There's a difference between Superman deliberately holding back or Goku choosing to drag out a fight versus, say, Freeza needing to transform and power up before he can use his full power, Cell needing to absorb specific people before he can be at full power or Maou from Part-Timer having the majority of his power sealed away. The former are not at their peak via a choice or mental restriction that they can undo at any time, while the latter need to undergo specific steps to fight at the same level. There was a reason that Freeza and Cell were crapping bricks until Goku and Vegeta, respectively, decided to just stand there and LET them power up to their maximum.

Originally Posted by SannaR

It's like the difference between how Superman normally doesn't use his powers at full strength cause just punching someone like Lex Luther or the Riddler would most likely kill the person versus when punching Darkside. Or like the times Goku is being even more of an airhead and doesn't realize he used more force than needed. Like if he thought he was only lightly poking a car but instead of a light touch that doesn't do anything the poke makes the car get flung down the road a few feet. It would be like how in the original version of Freeza meeting Goku; Goku is thought of to be really slow and thus not a threat. Which he is. Until he realizes that he's still wearing his very heavy weighted training top and takes it off and shows how fast he really is. Just because Goku can fight someone with said shirt on doesn't mean he's able to fight as good as he can without it on. Hope that makes more sense.

Why would veering off into a tangent about Dragon Ball Z with a single sentence about FFXIV suddenly make things make more sense? Magic doesn't even translate well in Dragon Ball, and power levels are bullshit.

Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai

Why would veering off into a tangent about Dragon Ball Z with a single sentence about FFXIV suddenly make things make more sense? Magic doesn't even translate well in Dragon Ball, and power levels are bullshit.

Sorry my brain at the time wasn't recalling the Slave Crown and Tera from FFVI. As an example of a person wearing something that inhibited/restricted a person from accessing/using their full abilities that included magic. While wearing it she could still function as a spell casting fighter for the Ghestal Empire while unknowingly at the time unable to cast bigger magics or use her Esper form. When trying to explain how I felt the Convocation sigils worked. I still think they do in a way since either Venat is that much stronger then Emet or she wasn't restricted via the sigil when she fairly easily broke from Herme's chains. While Emet broke free after having his light up iirc.