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  1. #21
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    butchersblock's Avatar
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    Jinn Goda
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    Marauder Lv 41
    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation, George.
    He's so manly and dreamy for.... playing Bard or something in the meantime.
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  2. #22
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    CelestiCer's Avatar
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    6.08 Hissatsu: Kaiten Give it back !!! obviously, mhm.
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    Celesti Cer
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    Jenova
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I would say that's being optimistic, but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
    It is what I like to see. Hoping I see it?

    My expectation is seeing nothing Job related other then them re-announcing again that making Jobs is difficult from creative standpoint, but they will endeavor to give it their best shot. Crowd goes gasp in ahh, next subject, and that would be it regarding Jobs. So... you're definitely not wrong. Expecting a response from Yoshi P who requested Feedback from us, " try it out " right? he said, I think that's really optimistic to expect a response from the man himself or anyone from Square... in like a year? well apparently according to other players 3+ years so yeah I would say I agree. It's kinda optimistic.
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  3. #23
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Well, the backlash from SAM was so severe they literally got scared off from the DRG and AST changes and decided to delay it which makes me slightly optimistic that they are willing to at least bring back kaiten in some form. We're unfortunately never going back to the big hits from our iajutsus though since they are adamant for some stupid reason to keep auto crits and instead adjust buffs to work with auto crits. I wish they would move away from the auto crit crap and just acknowledge that dps variations are par for the course of stat based games. Its a strange acknowledgement of parsing from them when parsing is something they clearly don't encourage.
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  4. #24
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    RyuuZero's Avatar
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    Ryu Kusanagi
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    Cerberus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Well, the backlash from SAM was so severe they literally got scared off from the DRG and AST changes and decided to delay it which makes me slightly optimistic that they are willing to at least bring back kaiten in some form. We're unfortunately never going back to the big hits from our iajutsus though since they are adamant for some stupid reason to keep auto crits and instead adjust buffs to work with auto crits. I wish they would move away from the auto crit crap and just acknowledge that dps variations are par for the course of stat based games. Its a strange acknowledgement of parsing from them when parsing is something they clearly don't encourage.
    yet our goal isn't to intimidate but to communicate.. yet what did we achieve outside of writing down our thoughts and reason in this forum? In My Opinion Auto-Crits while debatable aren't the problem.. they are more like a Solution to a Problem that never existed but therefor causing bigger Problems and stay quite about it because the devs can do no wrong and FFXIV is a Masterpiece.. lol.. even though Yoshi and Devs are just humen and humen make mistakes, that's why they are humen.. but pointing out mistakes and providing reasons why those changes are infact mistakes and offering other solutions in return like accepting the Auto-Crit but making the following attack after Kaiten Direct Hit.. even if Samurai would've been weaker than 6.08 it still would be more bearable than flat out removal.
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  5. #25
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuuZero View Post
    yet our goal isn't to intimidate but to communicate.. yet what did we achieve outside of writing down our thoughts and reason in this forum? In My Opinion Auto-Crits while debatable aren't the problem.. they are more like a Solution to a Problem that never existed but therefor causing bigger Problems and stay quite about it because the devs can do no wrong and FFXIV is a Masterpiece.. lol.. even though Yoshi and Devs are just humen and humen make mistakes, that's why they are humen.. but pointing out mistakes and providing reasons why those changes are infact mistakes and offering other solutions in return like accepting the Auto-Crit but making the following attack after Kaiten Direct Hit.. even if Samurai would've been weaker than 6.08 it still would be more bearable than flat out removal.
    I could accept auto crits if they changed their approach a bit. IMO I would bring kaiten back, remove the auto crit on midare and place the auto crit onto tsubame-gaishi. Same with ogi namakiri I would remove the auto crit from the first hit and then add the auto crit onto kaeshi namakiri. That way we at least get some form of big crits back, we get kaiten back, we get some semblance of kenki management back while still having dps consistency in some form with the follow up attacks being auto crits. I feel like this would be an extremely good compromise to the situation with SAM and we could return to DNC's getting some meaningful benefits back from being SAM dance partner.
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  6. #26
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    Yellow Bun
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 90
    I'm indifferent when it comes to guaranteed crits. I just want them to move the potency they took away from our big hits back onto our big hits and away from our basic combos, and of course add kaiten back yadda yadda yadda nuance blah blah blah kenki management something something game feel. Oh yeah also give me an excuse to move during trash pulls again. Tenka Goken never needed to be a circle. The animation looks weird, pathetic, and stumpy now.

    I'm not convinced any of that will happen though. It looks like all our feedback did was delay the inevitable un-funning of DRG and AST. I'm not confident kaiten is ever coming back. And I'm not confident that anything with equal or greater fun-factor will take its place. Sub has been cancelled.
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