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  1. #11
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    Hezhi's Avatar
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    Hezhi Lann
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Quyn View Post
    I honestly dont miss kaiten. Looking forward to more exciting new skills instead.
    3 years ago I was looking forward to more exciting skills being added to my SCH after they gutted that jobs kit
    Still waiting
    (18)

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezhi View Post
    3 years ago I was looking forward to more exciting skills being added to my SCH after they gutted that jobs kit
    Still waiting
    J-just wait until 7.0! I mean, j-just wait until 8.0!
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  3. #13
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    ThorneDynasty's Avatar
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    "Well actually Kenki isn't an interesting enough of a skill, it needs something more"

    Kenki removed. Nothing added.

    "Perfect! S-tier patch for SAM!"
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    Last edited by ThorneDynasty; 07-01-2022 at 02:01 AM.

  4. #14
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    KurenXIV's Avatar
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    Kuren Karashi
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    Siren
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    I doubt LL part 1 will talk about job changes
    they never do....
    The continual moving of the goal posts will continue! ;D

    "Guys, they never talk about job changes in LL part 1....or 2....ok they aren't going to address bringing back kaiten for 7.0 at fanfest they never call out individual jobs like that... job previews for a new expansion never show the return of old moves ... guys we gotta wait till 8.0 to see if they have the resources to change it"

    Once LL1 comes and goes without mention of fixing SAM I'm out. I've already stopped playing as have a bunch of my friends since there's a severe lack of content at the moment and it'd be a good point to drop the game anyway since the main story arc is done now.
    (5)

  5. #15
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KurenXIV View Post
    The continual moving of the goal posts will continue! ;D

    "Guys, they never talk about job changes in LL part 1....or 2....ok they aren't going to address bringing back kaiten for 7.0 at fanfest they never call out individual jobs like that... job previews for a new expansion never show the return of old moves ... guys we gotta wait till 8.0 to see if they have the resources to change it"

    Once LL1 comes and goes without mention of fixing SAM I'm out. I've already stopped playing as have a bunch of my friends since there's a severe lack of content at the moment and it'd be a good point to drop the game anyway since the main story arc is done now.
    How is that moving a goal post? Its a fact that the live letters are structured a very specific way and they rarely if ever talk about job changes in the earlier live letters before a major patch. If they mention anything it will be like the last live letter where it took placed a few weeks before 6.1 launched. This is how they have done things for years.

    The likelihood of them mentioning SAM or talking about the potential DRG changes is nearly 0 in tomorrows LL.
    (1)

  6. #16
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    CelestiCer's Avatar
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    6.08 Hissatsu: Kaiten Give it back !!! obviously, mhm.
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    Celesti Cer
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    Jenova
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    The likelihood of them mentioning SAM or talking about the potential DRG changes is nearly 0 in tomorrows LL.
    What I would like to see
    • An apology, just like how they addressed overtuning BLM.
    • Attention to care, like they have with so many other issues and changes.
    • Acknowledging it in a decent time span like so many smaller and bigger issues
    • All of the above regardless of a Live Letter
    Keywords " What I would like to see ".

    Square's chance to address a F'up. Even more so during a live letter to regain lost good will. Heck at this point, it's a W up for grabs.

    Notice also what we been asking...
    • Some sort of Revert resembling the changes
    • Kaiten back
    • Tenka Goken back to a Cone
    • The Big Hits on our Big DPS skills in-game back
    I can give a rats ass that our performance on some FFLogs is now " great ", it doesn't " feel great ", it feels terrible. I don't think asking even this to be addressed is unreasonable. Acknowledging the feedback they asked! for us to beta-test " try it out ".

    We're not asking the impossble from Square... yet for some reason people thikn we're asking that. We're not asking Square to do the following...
    • Solve World hunger and World peace
    • Starting a civilization on one of Jupiter's moons
    • Solving Global Energy issues with renewable energy
    • Implement Blitzball game and a Blitzball Job
    • Change all Mogstation items as obtainable through ingame achievements
    • Being allowed to sell in-game ERP acts through Twitter for money
    • A floating island for my FC like Elpis btw get on it!
    • Entire deviating Skill-Tree's for every job, sounds totally easy
    • Doubling the Housing Ward capacity, go buy some extra Servers
    • Make all ingame mods and 3rd party tools all incorporated in-game all of it
    • And do all of it before 6.2 while giving me a foot massage
    I know this sounds stupid... but people ask these unreasonable things like it's effortless or costless or costing no time to do.

    But when WE make REASONABLE argue points on Square? like FIXING a job they knowingly fk'd up, admitting to potentially fk-ing it up before changing it, people defending Square's every turn? make it sound like this is what we're asking -> THE MOST IMPOSSIBLE AND UNREASONABLE THINGS we're not...

    We're not asking the unreasonable. Fixing a Job they ruined isn't unreasonable. idc if its during LiveLetter or not, which also isn't unreasonably impossible. Square needs to Address it.
    • They asked us for Feedback? that's reasonable
    • They asked us to try it? that's reasonable
    • They asked us to try out something we didn't ask for? totally reasonable
    • Yet Us asking them to respond to our feedback? is unreasonable?


    ...Contradiction
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  7. #17
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I would say that's being optimistic, but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
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  8. #18
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    RyuuZero's Avatar
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    Ryu Kusanagi
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    Cerberus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    well.. the Live Letter will be our chance to make our voice heard: #BringBackKaiten
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  9. #19
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    Marcelloix Ostoiraint
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100

    fix sam

    too many rage babys trying to get attenion for me they will get around to it soon enough i will just work other jobs till they do.
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  10. #20
    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation, George.
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