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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    windows 7 has been outdated for awhile its time to upgrade
    Tbh at this point I feel like new OS are '' updates '' lol.
    They're just becoming more convoluted and feel more and more like Ipad OS.
    I am having more issues on Windows 10 than I remember having on any of the old ones too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I am having more issues on Windows 10 than I remember having on any of the old ones too.
    Every time I see comments like this I can't help but wonder what people are doing to their computers. While I'm not a fan of some of the systems they put in newer Windows, I have had no problems with Win10. I think people just install garbage programs and over time it just borks their system. That or just run weird hardware that has unstable software or drivers.

    But yeah, 5 different computers (3 desktops and 2 laptops) all completely different hardware and never had a problem on any of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    Every time I see comments like this I can't help but wonder what people are doing to their computers. While I'm not a fan of some of the systems they put in newer Windows, I have had no problems with Win10. I think people just install garbage programs and over time it just borks their system. That or just run weird hardware that has unstable software or drivers.

    But yeah, 5 different computers (3 desktops and 2 laptops) all completely different hardware and never had a problem on any of them.
    My early days in IT were nightmare fuel seeing the level of garbage some people install on their PC's lol. Malwarebytes was a Godsend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    Every time I see comments like this I can't help but wonder what people are doing to their computers. While I'm not a fan of some of the systems they put in newer Windows, I have had no problems with Win10. I think people just install garbage programs and over time it just borks their system. That or just run weird hardware that has unstable software or drivers.

    But yeah, 5 different computers (3 desktops and 2 laptops) all completely different hardware and never had a problem on any of them.
    If you run any degree of legacy software dealing with Windows 10 and 11 is a fricken nightmare. Some of the times virtualization just doth not cut it either so there are some out there with a nice Windows 7 dual boot setup.

    Sometimes you wish to play Dragon Age Origins or something else without spending hours diagnosing obscure nonsense issues. Artifacting and crashing issues abound on Windows 10. Runs flawlessly on Windows 7.

    Working with old hardware for job related stuffs means I keep many old machines and equally outdated operating systems around.

    Have no clue what others do on their pooters that makes them not wish to upgrade to a modern OS but can state this. My last Microsoft OS was Windows 8.1. Use Linux for nearly everything already that tis not gaming so I just switched to Linux full time. Only time Windows is touched is for games that still will not run properly (or certain software). For that this Mia just uses hardware passthrough and a VM running whichever version of Windows works the bestest.

    Had nothing but issues with Windows 10 wishing to automatically do something I am completely uninterested in. It is my pc and it will remain as up to date or out of date as I darn well wish. No more disabling telemetry, no more search indexing folders that do not need indexing, no more Cortana. Just one Lala, her terminal, and preferred desktop environment. Nothing stimulates my everything like checking my memory usage and seeing 96% memory free. Mmmm yummy.

    When I still fixed computers for extra dosh I encountered no decrease in melicious software related jobs. However! Saw large uptick in users who had upgraded on machines that had no business upgrading from lack of understanding. Spent much of the time disabling useless "features" knowing full well they would be forcefully re-enabled next major update cycle. Heck, when possible I downgraded many machines back to their origional OS and warned those users not to upgrade unless they enjoyed paying me. Was only ever contacted by some of them when they were ready for a new system and wished for my assistance building them one.

    Upgrade for security sure sure, should always recommend this when it is applicable. It is not always applicable. Why the heck are these forums so full of ones gargling Microsoft's big stanky package manager?

    TL;DR - Windows 10 - 11 leaves me feeling drier then the great deserts of Dune and this is okay because we do not all have to enjoy the same things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    Sometimes you wish to play Dragon Age Origins or something else without spending hours diagnosing obscure nonsense issues. Artifacting and crashing issues abound on Windows 10. Runs flawlessly on Windows 7.
    Still load up and play DA:O on my windows 11. Doesn't need any tweaking. Just install, run and play. Same with KOTOR and KOTOR2. I haven't run into any game that I can't open easily except Starlink. That game requires virtualization to be turned off. That would cause issues on ANY OS for me. I am a mobile developer and need virtualization for testing purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    Every time I see comments like this I can't help but wonder what people are doing to their computers. While I'm not a fan of some of the systems they put in newer Windows, I have had no problems with Win10. I think people just install garbage programs and over time it just borks their system. That or just run weird hardware that has unstable software or drivers.

    But yeah, 5 different computers (3 desktops and 2 laptops) all completely different hardware and never had a problem on any of them.
    Since upgrading to windows 10 (and then 11) I have had a grand total of 2 Green screens of death (the NEW BSOD). Both caused by a failing video card. Windows 7 I had quite a few BSODs and the majority of them never really figured out what happened. BSOD, reboots, works fine from there.


    EDIT: Wait I had one more GSOD on Windows 11 because it couldn't connect to my linux shares and had a bug that they fixed next patch cycle (I run pre-releases of Win11).
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    Waiting for the day they drop PS4 support, that'll start bigger discussions on the forums.
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    Jin Wa
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    Waiting for the day they drop PS4 support, that'll start bigger discussions on the forums.
    Waited it since 2015 it was announced
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    Leon Keyh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    Waiting for the day they drop PS4 support, that'll start bigger discussions on the forums.
    They won't. FFXIV will always be supported by PS4; After FFXVI is over they'll start (or continue) the groundwork for the next FF MMO that won't support PS4, but FFXIV always will.

    Also, lol "discussions."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    They won't. FFXIV will always be supported by PS4; After FFXVI is over they'll start (or continue) the groundwork for the next FF MMO that won't support PS4, but FFXIV always will.

    Also, lol "discussions."
    Given that they dropped PS3 support for 14 just before Stormblood launched plus 11 had it's PS2/X360 versions dropped also, Square Enix have a track record of keeping existing MMOs going and dropping older console platforms. I don't see why they'd start again also given how much time/money launching a new MMO would require, you'd have no choice but to phase out PS4 support for 14 at some point before Sony cut off the ability to sell new games/DLC on that platform (which they've done for all their older consoles already).

    It's ultimately just a question of whether or not it happens in 7.0 or 8.0. Given that they've already mentioned doing various graphical improvements across the entire game world, likely to start in 7.0, I'd say that's a good starting point for removing or at least signalling the end of PS4 support. If they go with 7.0, which is likely to be 23Q4 or 24Q1 based on the current patch cycle, the PS5 would've been on the market long enough for enough people to have upgraded.
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