Leveling is way to fast...

[Diadumenos]

Is that how you level so fast, Powerleveling duo? Dear lord... it is not the dev's fault that people chose to do that. It is the players choice. There are only so many leve marks you can get in a day. Behest only happens so often. Don't forget to sleep.

[Teakwood]

Do you seriously want to tell a friend starting the game who you'd really like to play with that it will take them /several weeks/ of slow, drag-ass grinding in order to get to a point where they can do thing one with you in game?

Like, am I seriously the only person who was frustrated multiple times trying to get friends into FFXI because they knew how mogawful it was getting to a point where the game got even a little bit interesting?

That -is- the game we're... orally honouring here, right? CoP-era FFXI? Just so that we're all on the same page. Because, like, you can get from 1-50 in CoX in a matter of days. That game obviously is pointless and who should even bother playing it!

I'm a crafter, I get the "man, PLing kills the demand for low-level gear", I think PLing is kind of dumb and haven't personally engaged in it except for a subset of my first class to 50, and that's only because a good friend of mine at the time wanted to PL me. However I think if you're taking a few weeks to get 1-50, which seems par for the course in my experience if I'm actually trying... that's /completely reasonable/, and definitely slow enough that I, at least, keep buying or making gear to keep my stats at a decent level. I don't think that's a valid argument against the XP curve.

[CrazyViet228]

Not sure leveling is way too fast I think it seems just about right buddy. A lot of FFXIV players are casual players and give or take a lot of extreme hardcore ones too but when you have people do have work full-time/part-time + school aside from the game I don't think leveling is fast or too slow. Not too long ago did I finish my last battle class to 50 and the timing for leveling it wasn't bad. I've known people to do Leve's and level up super quick not a big issue. You want a challenge Solo Leve's 1-50 then with no grinding party should be challenge enough for you. Nothing wrong with being PL'ed either as few comments stated in this forum post its there decision, people do what they want can't stop it, can't do away with it, can't make Dev's work any faster or change there mind on how exp should be going. Just go with the flow of of the game and adapt. If you don't like it well suck it up and deal with it.

[faris]

I think so many people are forgetting XIV's aims of being a casual MMO.

[Andrien]

2nd thread got locked, so I came here.

[DeadlySwordz]

So the point of you making the other thread was to get it locked right away huh? Guess what, it worked! lol. 1 Thread for 1 topic is enough. And for your topic, the leveling is fine with me, I been back for a little over a month, started fresh and I am only PLD39. I am playing casually though, I don't sit in front of my PC 24/7 playing this game

[Jocko]

I am playing casually though, I don't sit in front of my PC 24/7 playing this game

Once again, people resort to the "Get a life" ad hominem. As I said before, Playing causally, it takes me about 2 weeks to hit cap. Currently, 'endgame' is more of a grind than getting to endgame, and that's pretty sad

Now, if they can make an endgame that is as varied and packed full of content as getting from 1-75 in XI, then sure, no problem, but from everything they've shown us thus far, it looks to be nothing more than grinding out tiered raids, a trap that many modern MMOs have been falling into. I just want XIV to be a memorable, balanced game that doesn't follow in the same footsteps as everything else out there, and currently it doesn't meet those standards

[Teakwood]

...as varied and packed full of content as getting from 1-75 in XI...

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[Teakwood]

I do not think there was as much content between 1-75 as you seem to be remembering there to have been, ser. Especially discounting the CoP missions, which - due to the uncapped missions sprinkled throughout, and due to glacial leveling speed, most people expected you to be level 75 before even starting them...

I mean I agree with you that, comparing XIV's current endgame to even CoP-era FFXI's endgame, there's a lot to be desired, but that's old news; the damn /dev team/ agrees with you on that. This game exists in a weird, interstitial space, which is why even talking about stuff like the pace of leveling doesn't really make any sense in my opinion until 2.0 hits.

But to insinuate that there was valid, interesting content between 1 and 75? There were quests- which many people just did at 75 anyways. There was, of course, a brilliant and fleshed-out and very real world to explore- but that has nothing to do with the leveling curve, and get the Wanderer's Shadow title and tell me the zones in XIV even as they are are boring. It's just that there's no reason to go to the interesting places, especially since everything's trying to kill you if you go off the beaten path at all. Still not sure why they did that.