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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    Im sorry that wasnt ment to sound like a personal attack.
    I didn't take it as one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaaku View Post
    Always one in every thread LMFAO
    Of course, otherwise they'd have no life themselves. They just have to come around announcing the fact that they have a life, or else they die.
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  2. #132
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    So is this like some sort of forumla forum posters do now?

    People are afraid that their 'right' opinion is in the minority, therefore they must make a thread to speak on how the majoirty MUST be wrong and therefore should be ignored or at least dealt with heavy kid gloves and appealed to less than the concerned minority's opinion?

    Cause I swear I've seen this happen again and again and again.

    Sorry you got outvoted, but please quit being a poor sport about it.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    Firstly, you should do yourself a favor and remind yourself that what may or may not be an achievement to someone else isn't for you to decide. Secondly, read what I say to the next poster.



    Been there, seen it, done it. Like I said, 2 maybe 3 posts before you posted that, there's not even the illusion of choice, especially since those like myself don't like solo to begin with, not for an MMO anyways. If I want to solo, I will just go play Dragon's Dogma, FFXIII-2, Skyrim, or Dark Souls where the single-player experience IS going to outshine any MMO's soloing experience ever to come out (which may be a newsflash but an MMO cannot do single-player experience the way a non-MMO can, period). I'm not going to bother staying online to constantly solo. These things have led me to just quit playing and to only log in when asked to do a linkshell event, as there is absolutely nothing else to do and I'm not going to just log on and waste my bandwidth by doing nothing either.

    But it's okay, because I'm just a minority in a playerbase where the majority want nothing less than to skip the leveling process completely just to grind endgame raids so they can log off and just grind an endgame raid in the next big triple-A MMO.
    I agree with you on the second part, I was just stating that it's human nature to take the easiest path. As for my first response it wasn't an attack at you or anything. I just don't feel it should be on us the players to intentionally slow ourselves down when we are paying SE to develop content for us.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    First of all, this game was made for ppl who has a life outside this game. that was the whole idea!!
    This argument is full of so many holes...I'm not sure if it's a troll or not
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz View Post
    I agree with you on the second part, I was just stating that it's human nature to take the easiest path. As for my first response it wasn't an attack at you or anything. I just don't feel it should be on us the players to intentionally slow ourselves down when we are paying SE to develop content for us.
    Oh, my apologies then. But it gave me a worthy opportunity, and I wouldn't have had it any other way, so thanks.
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    Last edited by Dragon; 05-30-2012 at 12:17 PM.

  6. #136
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    If leveling is too fast, adjusting the amount of exp earned alone is not a good solution. FFXIV also needs lvl sync accompanied by mandatory lvl capped quality content along the way (every 10 lvls). Lvl capped content would give more value to mid-lvl gear. This game lacks spatial and temporal progression. I can run to the edges of the world at lvl 1.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    So is this like some sort of forumla forum posters do now?

    People are afraid that their 'right' opinion is in the minority, therefore they must make a thread to speak on how the majoirty MUST be wrong and therefore should be ignored or at least dealt with heavy kid gloves and appealed to less than the concerned minority's opinion?

    Cause I swear I've seen this happen again and again and again.

    Sorry you got outvoted, but please quit being a poor sport about it.
    The only time ill whine when majority wins is if the majority voted for more melee over casters.
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  8. #138
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    If you think leveling is too fast, try synthing without doing leves and get back to us... >_>;
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    Quote Originally Posted by NationOfZealots View Post
    If you think leveling is too fast, try synthing without doing leves and get back to us... >_>;
    No one here is claiming that the EXP for DoL/DoH is too fast, so that crap doesn't even begin to apply.
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  10. #140
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    going to chime in again

    anyone here ever played Guild Wars 1? You get to max level extremely fast in that game, like within a day easily, and it got shorter with each expansion. Ease of leveling doesn't necessarily mean the rest of the game is easy or unfulfilling, and there are ways to make a player get a feeling of accomplishment then just making a long arduous journey to max level.

    Leveling speed is mostly beside the point to me, what's more important is that along the way there is enough content and things to do to keep you occupied along the way. FFXIV leveling doesn't need to be massively short like Guild Wars 1 or anything, after all it was designed with level 1-50~ in mind. But along the way, there just needs to be enough stuff to do.

    I chose "just right."* Why? I came back in february and tried to level a character like I would as if I had just started the game. There were enough quests and things to do to keep me occupied up to about 35 without getting bored, at which point I did exp groups and such to 50, because the job quest I did was ridiculously hard. I feel that if it were longer with the current content available then I would have to grind, which would be stupid. Anyway, I earned new abilities at a decent pace. I bought new gear regularly, etc. If you're not powerleveling you're pretty much going to need new gear every few levels. It's not the speed of leveling that is hurting the economy of the game, its fucking powerleveling!

    *Just right for one class. Trying to do a second class legit is goddamn mind numbing because there are no more quests or story except for a few scarce class quests.

    Right now, there isnt enough content to sustain a longer leveling curve. I am okay with Yoshi saying he will make the leveling a little longer if in 2.0 it has the content to back it up. But please don't argue that people are lazy because they don't want to deal with fucking leves and simply grinding monsters all day all the way to 50, especially once you try to do a second class, the experience of doing it legit is pretty retarded
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    Last edited by casker; 05-30-2012 at 01:21 PM.

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