Leveling is way to fast...

[Dragon]

I agree with you on the second part, I was just stating that it's human nature to take the easiest path. As for my first response it wasn't an attack at you or anything. I just don't feel it should be on us the players to intentionally slow ourselves down when we are paying SE to develop content for us.

Oh, my apologies then. But it gave me a worthy opportunity, and I wouldn't have had it any other way, so thanks.

[Hyrist]

So is this like some sort of forumla forum posters do now?

People are afraid that their 'right' opinion is in the minority, therefore they must make a thread to speak on how the majoirty MUST be wrong and therefore should be ignored or at least dealt with heavy kid gloves and appealed to less than the concerned minority's opinion?

Cause I swear I've seen this happen again and again and again.

Sorry you got outvoted, but please quit being a poor sport about it.

[KoujiGeki]

So is this like some sort of forumla forum posters do now?

People are afraid that their 'right' opinion is in the minority, therefore they must make a thread to speak on how the majoirty MUST be wrong and therefore should be ignored or at least dealt with heavy kid gloves and appealed to less than the concerned minority's opinion?

Cause I swear I've seen this happen again and again and again.

Sorry you got outvoted, but please quit being a poor sport about it.

The only time ill whine when majority wins is if the majority voted for more melee over casters.

[Hyrist]

The only time ill whine when majority wins is if the majority voted for more melee over casters.

I'm just stating that the point has been proven that the people on these boards are still a vocal minority, rather than the majority. And I am musing at the fact that now they are out-voted, they're screaming even louder.

It mirrors the irrationality of fringe groups in politics, as well as the general lack of scope such groups share.

50 is mid-level. Yes, it's cap for the moment, but long term, the events that are happening now are either going to have higher level versions later on or become obsolete as new content, levels and the inevitable power creep comes to pass.

They want to lengthen the level process when we're pretty much going to be doubling the time it takes to get to cap by the time we reach 99 anyways.

This game is leveling without an upward curve, which I believe is very correct.

There are two ways to lengthen the process, and both are poor decisions.

One, to evenly distribute the time spent between levels, which has pretty much no point of it. What's the difference between spending an 4 hours getting accustomed to a new ability (Assuming 1 level ~ 1 hour of leves.) And spending 8, or even 16? There's no point in that, at all.

Or two, you instill an upward leveling curve like every MMO, which will exhaust people as they feel their progress being hampered down by the game's mechanics. The system becomes oppressive rather than progressive, and the time spent refining your skills for specific events is instead spent trying to get those last few measly experience points so you meet the minimum standard.

There are more ways for you to gain the feeling of 'being on a journey' then simply leveling up. Exploration, gear progression, storyline. All of these things should be improved before the concept of leveling pacing need to be considered.

[Fayie]

Does it really matter? Games like WoW you can level almost TWICE the amount of levels in almost the same amount of time. It only takes up to 1 week anyway if you're being PL'd or know exactly what you're doing.

Besides the game has already been labeled as broken, and everything in terms of endgame content is going to be removed. How much would it suck if casual players (who didn't have the time to grind like the job-less nerds that overwhelm the MMO community) lost out on a LOT of cool stuff because the grind was just too much?!!

I am happy for the quick leveling. It's not like starting Ifrit for the first time is an easy accomplishment anyway.

[RahJah]

If leveling is too fast, adjusting the amount of exp earned alone is not a good solution. FFXIV also needs lvl sync accompanied by mandatory lvl capped quality content along the way (every 10 lvls). Lvl capped content would give more value to mid-lvl gear. This game lacks spatial and temporal progression. I can run to the edges of the world at lvl 1.

[NationOfZealots]

If you think leveling is too fast, try synthing without doing leves and get back to us... >_>;

[Dragon]

If you think leveling is too fast, try synthing without doing leves and get back to us... >_>;

No one here is claiming that the EXP for DoL/DoH is too fast, so that crap doesn't even begin to apply.

[casker]

going to chime in again

anyone here ever played Guild Wars 1? You get to max level extremely fast in that game, like within a day easily, and it got shorter with each expansion. Ease of leveling doesn't necessarily mean the rest of the game is easy or unfulfilling, and there are ways to make a player get a feeling of accomplishment then just making a long arduous journey to max level.

Leveling speed is mostly beside the point to me, what's more important is that along the way there is enough content and things to do to keep you occupied along the way. FFXIV leveling doesn't need to be massively short like Guild Wars 1 or anything, after all it was designed with level 1-50~ in mind. But along the way, there just needs to be enough stuff to do.

I chose "just right."* Why? I came back in february and tried to level a character like I would as if I had just started the game. There were enough quests and things to do to keep me occupied up to about 35 without getting bored, at which point I did exp groups and such to 50, because the job quest I did was ridiculously hard. I feel that if it were longer with the current content available then I would have to grind, which would be stupid. Anyway, I earned new abilities at a decent pace. I bought new gear regularly, etc. If you're not powerleveling you're pretty much going to need new gear every few levels. It's not the speed of leveling that is hurting the economy of the game, its fucking powerleveling!

*Just right for one class. Trying to do a second class legit is goddamn mind numbing because there are no more quests or story except for a few scarce class quests.

Right now, there isnt enough content to sustain a longer leveling curve. I am okay with Yoshi saying he will make the leveling a little longer if in 2.0 it has the content to back it up. But please don't argue that people are lazy because they don't want to deal with fucking leves and simply grinding monsters all day all the way to 50, especially once you try to do a second class, the experience of doing it legit is pretty retarded

[Gukie]

seriously... leveling is way to easy... I got a mule to 50 on most job
There's nothing to do in this game at 50...

If you make Leveling quick you need to Give us content that aren't spamable 24/7 to the point that this feels like a freken job se. I Love the Exploration and leveling parties. this game by far has no exploration or exp parties fun.
It's like the easiest game in history for dumb and dumber.