Hey look a spreadsheet of all the eureka bots!

[Meowdyj]

I'm seriously starting to believe the rumor they're just not banning them because of active subscriptions aka. they choose to keep profiting of them. Either that or they're just incapable of detecting the bots and have no jurisdiction to suspend the accounts.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

i'm sure they're working on trying to find a way to render the bot Ai neutered (hopefully in a way that doesn't inconvenience actual player) which is a better use of time than deleting and banning throwaway accounts day in and day out

And i'm sure they're not doing anything beyond what they've been doing for years, namely nothing much. I doubt it would take 10 freaking years to come up with SOMETHING to attempt, so either they're wilfully ignoring it or are incredibly incompetent. Or their masters are keeping them from doing anything. Or it's not a problem in JP servers, so it's not a problem. Who could ever tell? SE could, but they won't.

[Scruit_Bigtime]

seen as you seem to know alot, how do you go about breaking botting scripts without negatively affecting honest players?

...i'll wait

[Jojoya]

seen as you seem to know alot, how do you go about breaking botting scripts without negatively affecting honest players?

...i'll wait

They've been able to break some bot scripts at times (usually the ones involving out of bounds hacks). Or they don't necessarily break the scrip but set up traps that get triggered by bots going out of bounds. I had a few weeks of amusement while leveling a new character watching bots get killed by a trap below the entrance to the Waking Sands. I had noticed damage numbers drifting up thru the floor and checked my combat log to see a stream of obvious bot names taking damage. Most of the bots would reappear at the entrance instead of below it a few minutes later and I was able to verify the damage taken matched their total HP.

But you're right, that's part of the challenge in dealing with bots - they don't want the steps they take to counter bots to negatively impact normal player experience. Bots using the out of bounds type hacks are easy to identify and ban. Bots that are sophisticated enough to mimic close to normal player behavior are not.

[DragonFlyy]

And i'm sure they're not doing anything beyond what they've been doing for years, namely nothing much. I doubt it would take 10 freaking years to come up with SOMETHING to attempt, so either they're wilfully ignoring it or are incredibly incompetent. Or their masters are keeping them from doing anything. Or it's not a problem in JP servers, so it's not a problem. Who could ever tell? SE could, but they won't.

Or they do make changes to the system and then the bot programs find ways around it, just like in every other MMO out there. FFXIV doesn't have an exclusive bot problem. WoW is just as bad.