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    ListenDana's Avatar
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    Plateau Masons
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    Red Mage Lv 90

    If They Need Class Inspiration...

    Why not reach into other Square properties?

    The Bravely series has plenty they could draw from, and though I know it would never happen they could even whet Disney's whistle and give them some of the FF14 money for a Keyblade class.

    The idea that they either have to scrape from Final Fantasy only or create something completely new is silly when this game prides itself on drawing from the company's other sources for so many other things.
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Samurai Lv 90
    the FF tactics series also has a fair amount of unused potential along with weapon types when you get to the advanced and A2 installments.
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    Pikalovr The-shocking
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by ListenDana View Post
    Why not reach into other Square properties?

    The Bravely series has plenty they could draw from, and though I know it would never happen they could even whet Disney's whistle and give them some of the FF14 money for a Keyblade class.

    The idea that they either have to scrape from Final Fantasy only or create something completely new is silly when this game prides itself on drawing from the company's other sources for so many other things.
    they wouldn't even have to wet disney's whistle disney normally goes to nomura for using sora outside of KH if nomura brought up wanting to use him, well the keyblade aspect. for a SE game they'd prolly be ok with it
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    There some characters even in FFXIV they can base new jobs on. Raubahn, back when he had two arms and his ability to generate flames from his swords and Meryweb and her dual pistols.

    Have Raubahn's fighting style be something he learned back in Ala Mhigo as a traditional fighting style of his people back when they were mostly mercenaries and cut throats for hire and he decides to pass this fighring style onto us.

    And Meryweb's style is something she picked up from her father, since he was the original owner of both her guns. And so we could directly learn from her and she eventually gives us a replica of her own pistols after we master her fighting style.
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    Last edited by Soge01; 06-07-2022 at 12:01 PM.

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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I don't think the problem is the theme. The mechanics are the hard part. You can put any graphics, names, and effects over any job and craft the animations to make sense.. but if it's just another 1-2-3 with some random resource to manage, why bother?
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I don't think the problem is the theme. The mechanics are the hard part. You can put any graphics, names, and effects over any job and craft the animations to make sense.. but if it's just another 1-2-3 with some random resource to manage, why bother?
    100% this, they need new devs to work on jobs and come up with inventive job designs for the current jobs instead of creating barely useful job gauges and then removing any choice with the gauges so they just become your counter for how many times you can spam 1 skill (ie Sam, War, Drk, Dnc, Mch, etc.)
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    100% this, they need new devs to work on jobs and come up with inventive job designs for the current jobs instead of creating barely useful job gauges and then removing any choice with the gauges so they just become your counter for how many times you can spam 1 skill (ie Sam, War, Drk, Dnc, Mch, etc.)

    We don't have jobs. We have roles. They would have to do some serious house cleaning for that to change. The way quests work have made it even clearer that the game is built around roles. So unique jobs probably aren't happening. It is sad, but it isn't like they haven't been moving this way every expansion for almost a decade.
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    Vatom Basilisk
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    Midgardsormr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Trust an believe you can make a billion classes but the issue I think is control
    How do you make things more unique without making them too powerful or too weak
    how do you add to it while keeping its identity and not over shadowing other classes
    How does it fit with other classes
    how does it interact with content
    alot goes into making new classes but its whether or not they can make it work in their favor
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    Free the Glam!, Duel Pistols (Gunner)?

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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    We don't have jobs. We have roles. They would have to do some serious house cleaning for that to change. The way quests work have made it even clearer that the game is built around roles. So unique jobs probably aren't happening. It is sad, but it isn't like they haven't been moving this way every expansion for almost a decade.
    The reason quests moved to role quests instead of job quests were to ease the burden on the quest team for having to create 19 (and more with every expansion) separate questlines for each job instead of just doing 5 for each role and dedicating resources to other things. Whether you like that or hate it is a different issue, but that was the reasoning given. My point was about specific job changes and the lack of innovation with jobs through the last few expansions. That is why I think they need new devs with fresh ideas to work on the job design team instead of the same 4 people (for 5 roles).
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    New original jobs not seen in FF before that Yoshi P wants right? Hmm well...that is a tough one because they've done so much over the years that is FF that it would be incredibly hard to think outside the box.

    I'm pretty sure they might be able to pull something from Xenogears, there was some unique combat styles in that.


    edit -

    one thing coming to mind, Magitek Class with a bit of a Tony Stark Iron Man inspiration.

    Basically it adopts the principles of Magitek Machines but condensed into a Metal Suit that can do the same things a Magitek Machine can do such as elemental abilities, Magitek Missiles, etc (the abilities from FF6).

    (well I guess this wouldn't be original though).

    Maybe another Mage Variation? Dragon Mage?

    Mage capable of turning into a Dragon for a limited time with Dragon abilities? Eh..maybe too narrow and unoriginal.


    Edit -

    So I'm thinking DBZ Goku's Power Pole, and it would be cool to have a Job that has a Staff that can do crazy stuff like Goku's Power Pole (I know a certain boss based on the same thing in Stormblood can do this too).
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 06-07-2022 at 02:04 PM.

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