Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
Making jokes does not downplay, nor affect the seriousness one would take the matter of sexual harassment within a serious context..
Yeah, it does, though.

Again, no. This is not how any of that works.
Yeah, it is.

because anyone with the most remote sense would be able to identify that they would be inappropriate in real-life. If someone were to behave this way, it wouldn't be because the media they consume influenced them to do so.
The clueless don't, though, and the more unsavoury sort don't have any qualms about it to begin with. They just see it green lit as something they can get away with.

There is literally zero evidence, scientific or otherwise, to make the claim that people who have acted inappropriately wouldn't have done so had they not been exposed to adjacent or similar material...
You have to be a troll, there is no way someone can be this obtuse.

Like I said, companies are aware of this and leverage it into their products, hence why they have not and will not stop creating and marketing 'problematic' content like what we had here
Like what? Like who?

I've done my research on this, and it wasn't some 'flash in the pan' moment like you keep trying to claim. It was actually a very vocal uproar
You weren't even there, lol. Digging up an old post circa. 2015 that suits your narrative isn't "research" or proof of understanding of the matter.

If it truly were some brief 'flash in the pan' moment, then SE wouldn't have acknowledged it and admitted fault, and committed to reverting his characterization to be in-line with his canonical iteration going forward.
They committed to keeping the cutscenes largely in line with each other, while also continuing to state the importance of localisation and the reasons why they do it and why they continue to do it.

And Haurchefant was already dead by the time this came to light. Nothing changed, and no one actually cared.

a handful of vocal supporters of the censored version on Reddit are not the majority. The backlash received from censoring him transcended multiple communities, and
Imagine trying to pretend that there are a "substantial" number of people who care about the translation differences while claiming the only people who like Haurchefant are a bunch of supporters on reddit.

to this day still riles people up who would prefer to experience him the way he was initially intended to be.
So you, basically.

A vocal base of redditors and forum users doesn't count as making him one of the 'most loved' characters.
The fact that you're not aware how out of touch you are with the game and the community to even make this statement speaks for itself.

It's far more likely he's more liked by the Japanese audience, in his proper iteration, than by Westerners.
We're just pulling things out of the air now, are we?

Yes, because it's fiction and intended to be comedic, because jokes are not intended to be taken seriously.
You can keep on pretending that media exists in a vacuum apart from general society all you like, but no one else is.

Because it's obviously meant to be taken as a joke in the broader narrative
??? Haurchefant was 100% serious.

In his EN iteration, he's written to feel more and more like a 'big brother' character, which is very bothersome given that the WoL's relationship to him at that point wasn't really that fleshed out. I kept thinking "why does he care this much? is there something I missed or a quest I should have paid more attention to?"
I think you have some personal issues to maybe work on if someone slobbering over you makes you more comfortable than friendly courtesy.

Anyway, as funny as this was and as much as I admire your continued audacity to speak on subjects you have absolutely no understanding of or were even around for, I'm out. Good luck with the crusade and whatever it is you're actually looking for, though I have a feeling you're not going to get it.