This frequency of English localization issues is unacceptable

[Ransu]

Some of us care about more than just the broader picture, which in regards to EW was a mess in any language. I enjoyed ShB my first playthrough, but learning all of the context and information that was left out in EN made going back through it almost an entirely different experience. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, but it does to me.

But context wasn't left out...The phrasing is different, but the context is exactly the same.

[GrizzlyTank]

Congratulations, you have identified the central dilemmna at the heart of all efforts to translate something from one language to another. A translation will never be perfect, and a choice somewhere will always be made to leave something out or translate in a way that emphasizes one aspect of the original text over another. It's normal, it happens with every localization and translation.

If it bothers you, I'd suggest looking into multiple different translations to get a fuller picture, or become fluent in the original language. That's what I try to do. It's a lot more satisfying than deranged conspiracy theories.

And even if he were to learn japanese he would still get the issue of "Death of the Author"! : D

Edit: In hindsight, we are all victims of that.

[Necrotica]

Pretty sure a lot of this is a result of the oh so fun and wacky old timey English. It was a mistake that haunts this game still.

First they have to translate it. Then they have to let shakespear have his way with the translation behind a shed.

Just talk like normal people ffs.

[Lhanu]

Ultimately I don't think the FFXIV localisation team is responsible for consumer error due to consumer inability to cope with the Ascians not actually being in the right.

[Teraq]

Ultimately I don't think the FFXIV localisation team is responsible for consumer error due to consumer inability to cope with the Ascians not actually being in the right.

I am honestly unsure what is with your frankly off-topic and very bizarre fixation on Ascians, but I can only assume it is an inability to cope with Emet-Selch having a point and remaining this game's most popular character since his introduction.

[Ransu]

Pretty sure a lot of this is a result of the oh so fun and wacky old timey English. It was a mistake that haunts this game still.

First they have to translate it. Then they have to let shakespear have his way with the translation behind a shed.

Just talk like normal people ffs.

I love the old english though.

[Lhanu]

I am honestly unsure what is with your frankly off-topic and very bizarre fixation on Ascians, but I can only assume it is an inability to cope with Emet-Selch having a point and remaining this game's most popular character since his introduction.

Hey, I love Emet, he's my second or third favourite character in the game.

His fans, on the other hand, all-too-frequently critically fail basic reading comprehension.

[KageTokage]

I don't mind the eloquent speech and ye olde English, but I don't like when it results in certain details being obfuscated for people who are less prone to reading into things; Midgarsormr's speech at the Keeper of the Lake being a good example of that.

It's kind of awkward that while they claim to have adopted the numbered spell names for the sake of "clarity" to the western audience, they also changed the script in ways that makes things less clear vs. the other translations.

Hey, I love Emet, he's my second or third favourite character in the game.

His fans, on the other hand, all-too-frequently critically fail basic reading comprehension.

It's funny you say that because I tend to see the other camp being just as, if not more prone to misinterpreting/misquoting things; a common trend being to speak in absolutes about things that were left up in the air, like claiming that the Ancients would have met the same fate as the people of the Plenty when it was stated that it was just Venat's fear of that fate that was a factor in why she made the choice she did.

[Theodric]

Yes, I'm sure many here are aware of the bizarre attempts to justify the genocide of an entire species and blame them for being placed in that situation by the same individual responsible for their demise.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Yes, I'm sure many here are aware of the bizarre attempts to justify the genocide of an entire species and blame them for being placed in that situation by the same individual responsible for their demise.

Yes, yes, we know you hate Venat. You've only dragged like 10 threads down that rabbit hole.