This frequency of English localization issues is unacceptable

[anhaato]

Nice to see the usual story is bad mmmkay cultists are active, keep up the good work guys!

Not that anything will change because thank our lady and saviour hydaelyn the devs don't read a single word of what you say.

You people avoid self awareness like it’s white auracite.

[Aluja89]

the first two literally change the lore of the game. the initial explaination for Nael being a woman was that *his* body assumed the form of someone close to him. We didnt get the JP explanation until later on.

I mean, sure. But, it's just a 1.0 remnant villain.

We're talking about major set pieces that were written to be slowly unveiled within 10 years, if you can't get that right then what am I supposed to believe while reading? Who does the blame fall to, other than the person who approved the localized text?

[Dionysius]

Wow thanks for the effort, let me repay you back!

[Raoabolic]

Wow thanks for the effort, let me repay you back!

Oh man, mspaint funposting. I can get behind this!

[icemage]

The issues outlined in the OP also change the lore of the game. There's not exactly a shortage of players who have been misled to believe that Zodiark was nothing more than a greedy blood god who preyed upon the Ancients. Those of us who fit the pieces together know that simply wasn't true, yet the English localisation has repeatedly downplayed his role as a saviour figure to the Ancients by using deceptive language that simply isn't present in the other languages. Or, worse yet, acts that should be credited to Zodiark are instead framed as Venat's doing instead. To say nothing of the brutality of the genocide tied to the Sundering being hidden behind soft, fluffy language.

Which is a problem. Just as it would be a problem if Estinien's possession by Nidhogg was randomly attributed to Aymeric instead.

Totally not true. If you played the English version and think Zodiark wasn't a hero to the Ancients you have just outed yourself for not paying attention. None of the examples brought up in this thread is evidence that the English lore is different from the Japanese lore.

[Theodric]

Wow thanks for the effort, let me repay you back!

Neat! Admittedly I can't say I've ever cared much about my post count or the number of likes, though. I didn't even notice I unlocked seven forum medals until someone pointed it out.

I post a lot because there's some gleaming gems to be found amongst the posters who flock here and it's decidedly more sane than either Twitter or Reddit.

[Kozh]

Totally not true. If you played the English version and think Zodiark wasn't a hero to the Ancients you have just outed yourself for not paying attention. None of the examples brought up in this thread is evidence that the English lore is different from the Japanese lore.

Careful there! There are people in this community who thinks zodiark is a hungry blood god yet claimed to be lore experts. Don't want to offend them, do you?

[Lihtleita]

I mean, sure. But, it's just a 1.0 remnant villain.

nael didnt drop the goddamn moon and permanently alter the overworld to be a 1.0 remnant villain

[Aluja89]

nael didnt drop the goddamn moon and permanently alter the overworld to be a 1.0 remnant villain

Nael didn't have any voiced lines and was in full armor, besides that Japanese don't have pronouns. Ultimately does it matter which gender Nael was?

Still is a 1.0 remnant and as of now can only be found in videos, it's a fact and it's not going to change.

[AziraSyuren]

That's just localization. Getting an actual translation is rare now a days, lol.

Localizing is better than translating. There are always nuances in text that can't translate that well, resulting in missing so much of the original meaning that even the best translations can't truly be accurate. At that point, giving something its own meaning is better.