This frequency of English localization issues is unacceptable

[Ritsuka-55]

Yeah, specially when you play with Japanese voices, I consume a lot of Japanese products and while I cannot read Japanese, a lot of words that I learnt their meaning have been ingrained into my brain, so listening to the Japanese dub saying certain things, then reading and watching the english text saying others (and a lot of times hole sentences are different) can feel really cringe and nonsensical, which in turn, turns me off.

[Theodric]

You don't need to be a trained chef in order to criticise a dish served at a restaurant. Equally, given the vast amount of - often surface level - inconsistencies with elements of Endwalker's story and narrative framing I'm inclined to believe that there is merit to the concerns raised.

[VirusOnline]

Hmm
this is an interesting comparison
though, imo i always thought the french version was overly flowery and at the same time a bit 'cold'
as long as the point gets across I don't see much of an issue

[Xirean]

Has anyone here actually worked in localization/translating in some form of media?

I have, and this is a pretty frustrating topic to read whiteout me having one of these moments:

What's causing those moments?

[EaraGrace]

I’m legitimately struggling to understand how people are concluding that so much is lost in localization, when their examples are nearly word for word translations of the original text. The difference between “seeding new life” and “to ensure that tress and grasses and myriad tiny forms of life would sprout and grow and flourish” is infinitesimal. “Make sure he is not used to nefarious ends” and “…we have seen the havoc it may wreak. And it falls to us to make sure it is never again brought upon the star,” is little just including additional context from the rest of the story that Y’shtola would know.

None of these change anything. Compare it to the mentioned Nael translation, which required its own entry in the EE, and it’s clear how little impact this has on the narrative.

[Theodric]

It certainly would not be the first such struggle.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I’m legitimately struggling to understand how people are concluding that so much is lost in localization, when their examples are nearly word for word translations of the original text. The difference between “seeding new life” and “to ensure that tress and grasses and myriad tiny forms of life would sprout and grow and flourish” is infinitesimal. “Make sure he is not used to nefarious ends” and “…we have seen the havoc it may wreak. And it falls to us to make sure it is never again brought upon the star,” is little just including additional context from the rest of the story that Y’shtola would know.

None of these change anything. Compare it to the mentioned Nael translation, which required its own entry in the EE, and it’s clear how little impact this has on the narrative.

There’s a pretty big difference between hydaelyn being stated to stop the final days and what actually happened…

[Greyhawk]

Assuming this is a valid excuse for anything, why is the EN localization the only one suffering from it?

I think we all know why. The same reasons why they never come here to communicate with us, interact with us, take any feedback from us... I could go on and on, but no point.

[anhaato]

Hmm
this is an interesting comparison
though, imo i always thought the french version was overly flowery and at the same time a bit 'cold'
as long as the point gets across I don't see much of an issue

The FR ver of the Elidibus death scene is nowhere near as flowery as the EN one, though... so many important lines by important characters are restructured to be stated so vaguely (Elidibus) or straight up lacking information (Midgard) in their quest to come up with cool-sounding one-liners. Or you have them making Y'shtola talk about the "havoc we've seen Zodiark's power wreak" which makes absolutely no sense because no, we haven't seen anything like that, or the mental gymnastics of "Hydaelyn prevented the final days by keeping Zodiark alive." They're both trying to get a point across, alright... the point being they're trying to tell us how GOOD GOOD GOOD Hydaelyn is and how BAD BAD BAD Zodiark is instead of showing us. They turned important lines into moments of literary weakness.

[hagare]

What's causing those moments?

I'm assuming this thread is one of them.
and it's the usual suspects AS USUAL.