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    TheWise's Avatar
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    Scarlet Wise
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 90

    Dev team, please fix the healer role

    FYI I dont play whm and sge but im assuming its safe to say the same for both of them as well. Feel free to tell me otherwise.

    I forgot when and where yoshi p said this but i remember him saying something along the lines of the "skill floor for the community has gone up since ARR", and i agree with him.

    So I have to ask....WHY ARE HEALERS STILL USING 1 DPS BUTTONS with the occasional healing? no seriously why? Can we not be trusted with a slightly more complicated rotation or something?

    I'm not asking for every healer to become what ast did....that in itself is an issue that I already talked about in another post. (long story short button bloat)

    I'm asking the dev to PLZ MAKE HEALERS MORE ENGAGING..we are dpsing 80% of the time...for f's sake, I'll take a 1,2,3 combo on 1 button at this point...just seeing the same animation over and over again will put me to sleep.

    Also, I kind of wished more dmg was going around so that I could at least see my flashier abilities more often. No seriously, I think ive only pressed neutral sect and Seraph once each this expansion...I don't even remember pressing it in shadowbringers and I do extreme fights.

    If it wasn't for my ast glam and sch being tied to smn. I would of dropped healing back in stormblood. There is just no justification for lvling healing right now other than que times.....
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    Hellebore Ghrian
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Choose your answer between the already given ones by Yoshi-P :

    - "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"

    - "Healer DPS is not taken into account for raids"

    - "First off, we do not expect healers to DPS."

    - "we have been trying to make it so that healers are more - will require for them to perform more heals - so the content damage that you are receiving becomes a little more intense so that healers are a bit more busy."

    - "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

    You already know the outcome, so don't get your hopes up, be nice and become a Sylphie.
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    Last edited by Hellebore_Ghrian; 06-07-2022 at 04:03 PM.

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    I feel like a good reason for us having very few DPS abilities/spells, is that if we had a more complex DPS rotation with combos, GCDs, and oGCDs, there would be people prioritizing their DPS over healing people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
    I feel like a good reason for us having very few DPS abilities/spells, is that if we had a more complex DPS rotation with combos, GCDs, and oGCDs, there would be people prioritizing their DPS over healing people.
    Then make us actually heal and don't make healer DPS required and mandatory at all oh my god I'm going to go insane if I see this garbage one more time
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    MintnHoney's Avatar
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    You already know the outcome, so don't get your hopes up, be nice and become a Selphie.
    Sylphie.

    Becoming Selphie is an ASTs dream.
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Yeah I don’t want more dps abilities. I don’t wanna go back to ARR-SB era when some healers prioritized dps over healing and wiped parties. Or leave their healing partner to main heal while they just used the occasional ogcd heal to help out. I say increase the damage and make us heal more. I do think we have too many healing abilities from what we do now but making encounters more healer heavy will make me pretty happy.
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
    I feel like a good reason for us having very few DPS abilities/spells, is that if we had a more complex DPS rotation with combos, GCDs, and oGCDs, there would be people prioritizing their DPS over healing people.
    There's so little outgoing damage in this game that you spend 80% of your play time not healing people. So what do you / they expect healers to do? Sit on their thumbs and do nothing until a raidwide happens?
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    Sorry Pete, if you don't give the vets something to do with the downtime they do get, you're going to be dying more often to the curebot rejects and baby healers who haven't even realized that they can look at the party list to see your HP, even if Squeen allows the damage dealt to be increased by the mere .5% they would be comfortable with.

    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
    I feel like a good reason for us having very few DPS abilities/spells, is that if we had a more complex DPS rotation with combos, GCDs, and oGCDs, there would be people prioritizing their DPS over healing people.
    Yeah, I didn't register your complaint at first, because I see this reasoning come out all the time, and I have to say, people already prioritize DPS as it is, so clearly the removal of DPS abilities hasn't fixed that at all. So the "reason" is a very bad one.
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    Last edited by MintnHoney; 06-07-2022 at 01:57 AM.

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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    There's so little outgoing damage in this game that you spend 80% of your play time not healing people. So what do you / they expect healers to do? Sit on their thumbs and do nothing until a raidwide happens?
    Spam Cure I for Freecure obviously.

    Or just /beesknees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPete View Post
    Yeah I don’t want more dps abilities. I don’t wanna go back to ARR-SB era when some healers prioritized dps over healing and wiped parties. Or leave their healing partner to main heal while they just used the occasional ogcd heal to help out. I say increase the damage and make us heal more. I do think we have too many healing abilities from what we do now but making encounters more healer heavy will make me pretty happy.
    Reducing the amount of DPS buttons has not changed "healers prioritizing dps over healing" so giving more won't suddenly cause a mass pandemic of "GREEN DPS WHO DONT HEAL!" and 3/4 healers heal almost entirely through oGCD actions so I'm not sure what you're on about
    Increasing the amount of healing required does nothing to help all of those aforementioned party wipers and instead makes it harder for new players, DPS actions do not raise the skill floor

    I'm really unsure of why people who are so against having more to do than spam Glare Glare Glare because of "we wiped in the past!" always have the solution of "just make the entire role harder!"
    Try to understand what you're asking for here lol
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