Quote Originally Posted by CasterSvarog View Post
Well for the past 8 years it’s been a job based around dots and pets, later gaining a burst phase that invokes the idea of a summoner.

Gonna be honest. If this was the case Dark Knight would be a tank that burns it’s own HP, but because it’s an MMO they sure as hell can’t do that. Summoners have always summoned, it’s in the freaking name for goodness sakes, but they should do more then just summons. Even in past games in the series, Summoners did more then just summon. FFIV had Rydia use Black and white magic spells ranging from the basic fire and blizzard to Bio, poison, stop, break, and flare just to name a few, alongside the games many summons, in FFIX Garnet & Eiko function as a White mage/Summoner, and in just about every other numbered game in the franchise almost all characters could summon and, by proxy, do more then just summon.

So why should XIV just be the job that does nothing but summon, XI already did that before. We shouldn’t be binding Summon to the clause of ‘it’s a summoner it’s only supposed to summon’ because by that state of reasoning Dragoon shouldn’t have anything that isn’t a jump, or Bards using archery, or White Mages shouldn’t have had elemental based spells. Jobs can have more to them, then just a lone gimmick.
Are we playing the same job in FFXIV? Because the summoner I am playing can cast ruin, energy drain, fester, painflare, a res, a shield and a damage buff. So no we don't just summon but it is the core of the job. Yes the summoner in FFIV did use black and white magic. In FFXIV we have black mages and white mages for that. So not sure you sold me on your vision of summoner. Do I think the job is half baked? Yes I do. However, Summoners need more summons. Not black magic or white magic that will step on the toes of those jobs currently in the game.