The future of Summoner

[Dahlinea]

I can glimpse their plan.

Add Ramuh, Leviathan, Shiva then make the rotation like this: Bahamut (opener) > Ifrit, Titan, Garuda > Phoenix > Ramuh, Shiva, Leviathan > Bahamut > repeat.

No more buttons, just different colors of the same thing. Literally, a 'summon machinegun'... something SMN never was in any FF that I can think of.

[SieyaM]

I can glimpse their plan.

Add Ramuh, Leviathan, Shiva then make the rotation like this: Bahamut (opener) > Ifrit, Titan, Garuda > Phoenix > Ramuh, Shiva, Leviathan > Bahamut > repeat.

No more buttons, just different colors of the same thing. Literally, a 'summon machinegun'... something SMN never was in any FF that I can think of.

Summons were also never always present pets but they were before this iteration so here we are.

[Dahlinea]

Summons were also never always present pets but they were before this iteration so here we are.

At least the job had more substance before than now.

If they want to make 'summon machinegun' out of SMN, fine. But that's not a reason to lower the bar so much and make this extremely basic job at LV90.

[SieyaM]

At least the job had more substance before than now.

If they want to make 'summon machinegun' out of SMN, fine. But that's not a reason to lower the bar so much and make this extremely basic job at LV90.

So you're changing your complaint from this SMN is something that wasn't present in previous games to them lowering the bar too far for you?

[Dahlinea]

So you're changing your complaint from this SMN is something that wasn't present in previous games to them lowering the bar too far for you?

Nope, I'm setting a priority.

If it has to be this way no matter what, which I still don't think follow the "SMN fidelity" people like bring up sometimes, at least make the gameplay part good and rewarding, not this brainless thing that has no sense of improvement.

[elioaiko]

I feel like since they shed the old parts of SMN (dots, OG pet ai), that they have a better future for the job.

The old SMN would have kept getting even longer openers while creating more convoluted ways of adding summons while maintaining dots and problematic ai.

It's unfinished rn but I feel like they have a better foundation going forward.

[Risvertasashi]

I feel like since they shed the old parts of SMN (dots, OG pet ai), that they have a better future for the job.

The old SMN would have kept getting even longer openers while creating more convoluted ways of adding summons while maintaining dots and problematic ai.

It's unfinished rn but I feel like they have a better foundation going forward.

To your second line - really their solution was to mostly just not add summons. Getting phoenix at all was the big exception, but before and after? Nope, no more summons for you - they even went out of the way in the lore to explain that summoners just wouldn't have the capacity for any more.

I otherwise agree though. Much better foundation now.