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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Two sides to every coin: Side 1 E3 45,000 attendance, Side 2 Gamescon 275,000 which one would they want to do E3 with less attendance, or Gamescom with 4 times the amount of E3? This is exactly why they made this change, Thanks Malakhim!
    This statement is so unbelivably stupid I can't even begin to respond.

    E3 is broadcast on television and online to MILLIONS every year. It's an industry only event but it's second to NO event as far as announcements, reveals and releases are concerned.

    Gamescom is a PUBLIC show and is meant mostly as a showcase of demos and products previously announced (usually at e3). Obviously a PUBLIC show will have a lot more attendees than a PRIVATE show. But attendance accounts for absolutely nothing because the actual announcements happen at E3 every year and are broadcast/published/streamed to EVERYONE.

    There's a reason Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo and all the other industry leaders present and announce their newest products during their own E3 press conferences and not at Gamescom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakhim View Post
    it's pretty much flat lining around 45k attendance given the nature of the attendees
    Although Gamescom has a larger attendance ratio than e3. E3 is mostly veiwed online via gamestrailers, ign, etc. It is also watched on Spike TV. Reported on hundreds of thousands of gaming sites. E3 is known to have the biggest gaming reveals for many years now. Although the attendance ratio is small...you are not counting the tens of thousands of people that watch it online...This is almost impossible to calculate since its watched on over 10 different sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurex View Post
    If nothing regarding FFXIV 2.0 is going to be @ E3, then what does this mean:

    "Well, the public release of version 2.0 is set to kickoff with this year’s E3 in Los Angeles."

    And why is he even going?
    Exactly.. do people like to over read everything? :/ the only thing that's NOT going to be at E3 is the Trailer....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuciont View Post
    Is there going to be a dev response or is the letter meant to be confusing?
    You do realise the EN reps are in LA don't you, they will not be at work yet (or just getting there and need to get the information) before they post.

    The GR and FR reps don't view the EN forums as much, so their replies are few and far between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViciousValentine View Post
    Although Gamescom has a larger attendance ratio than e3. E3 is mostly veiwed online via gamestrailers, ign, etc. It is also watched on Spike TV. Reported on hundreds of thousands of gaming sites. E3 is known to have the biggest gaming reveals for many years now. Although the attendance ratio is small...you are not counting the tens of thousands of people that watch it online...This is almost impossible to calculate since its watched on over 10 different sources.
    In which at Gamescom, there will be Youtube Videos that Millions of people can see...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    No lol, as I said I have no interest in CGI footage, the way the producer letter reads to me and maybe (just maybe) I have jumped to the wrong conclusion is that SE won't be showing much at all at E3, I guess we will have to see in a week or so.

    What I am disappointed about is that they led us to believe otherwise and have since changed there mind, sure shit happens ... are you saying I am not allowed to voice my opinions ? or is that considered whining ?

    There is a difference between the two, perhaps you don't realise the difference though, or maybe you just wanted to troll and berate my post ?
    I am merely trying to tell you how your initial post sounded. Had you formulated your initial post like this one, I wouldn't have jumped you.
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    lol you guys have the worst logic ever..

    Yoshida: Well, the public release of version 2.0 is set to kickoff with this year’s E3 in Los Angeles. We also plan to unveil a brand new promotion site for version 2.0 soon after E3 ends.

    Lodestone Forum: So that means he's not showing anything at E3!!!

    Anyway what are you guys trying to whine about? 2.0 won't be released until the end of this year they have plenty of time to show you the new stuff. This entire forum is nothing but whining, trolling, and self-entitlement. There will be a huge time for this game to show 2.0 you've waited 2 years you can wait a bit longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Two sides to every coin: Side 1 E3 45,000 attendance, Side 2 Gamescon 275,000 which one would they want to do E3 with less attendance, or Gamescom with 4 times the amount of E3? This is exactly why they made this change, Thanks Malakhim!
    Except one little thing: E3 has 45,000 people plus hundreds of thousands of online views on streams and is the one gaming event that gets the most coverage in pretty much every gaming site. From Gamespot to IGN to Kotaku to randomguysgamingblog.com, E3 will be the one thing everyone will be talking about. If someone farts on E3, the whole world will know seconds later. That kind of thing just doesn't happen with Gamescon, TGS or any other gaming event.

    So, I too believe that not presenting FFXIV on E3 is an error. They need to start marketing FFXIV 2.0 as early as possible, and yes, E3 would be a nice start, with or without a trailer. August might be too late, given the fact that so many people out there either believe the game is the exact same thing as 2010 or think it's has been shut down and erased from everyone's memories.

    To me, it seems that SE is missing pretty much every chance they get to market this thing, and like I've said, when they actually decide to start it, it might already be too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLion View Post
    lol you guys have the worst logic ever..

    Yoshida: Well, the public release of version 2.0 is set to kickoff with this year’s E3 in Los Angeles. We also plan to unveil a brand new promotion site for version 2.0 soon after E3 ends.

    Lodestone Forum: So that means he's not showing anything at E3!!!
    If we were to take everything literally that would imply version 2.0 is actually being released during E3. Which is obviously impossible, which goes to show how poorly translated this segment is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    I am merely trying to tell you how your initial post sounded. Had you formulated your initial post like this one, I wouldn't have jumped you.
    No need to jump on me at all though is there

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLion View Post
    There will be a huge time for this game to show 2.0 you've waited 2 years you can wait a bit longer.
    Some of us who have stuck with this game since launch are fed up with waiting.
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