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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    There will never be instanced housing. The devs have been very clear on that both that they cant do it server capacity wise and that they simply don't want to do it because their design for housing areas was never intended for everyone to have a house. the original intent was for them to be for FC's and for the housing to be a "neighborhood" feel where houses were shared with the FC. Honestly allowing personal housing was a mistake that has lead to the current scenario of people constantly trying to get a personal house. Ya ya, ghost FC's and all that, but that's a minor problem compared to the situation right now where people just can't accept the fact that housing is intended to be a certain way and its never going to change.

    Just wait for the island sanctuary content where everyone is assuming you're going to be able to do gardening and other features locked behind housing (just don't expect to have the housing features. If that happens I'd be shocked.)
    You realize that Island Sanctuary's existence shows that instance server capacity is a non-issue. correct? Since every character who gets past whatever MSQ/side quest requirement SE has for Island Sanctuary will have one. If it can be done for Island Sanctuary, it can be done for housing. After all, if player is in one instance it means they aren't occupying any others.

    It doesn't really matter what their original intent for housing was. Designs can be changed based on player reaction.

    MSQ - revamped in response to player feedback.

    Diadem - totally repurposed because players did not like the original even after SE made a few changes.

    Eureka - the content design for the later zones changed in response to player feedback.

    Elite hunts have been changed from some wildly varying respawn timers and dozens of spawn points per zone to standardized respawn timers and about a dozen spawn points in response to player feedback.

    New FATEs added in ShB and EW were changed from rewarding GC seals to bi-color gemstones because players complained that FATEs needed a new type of reward to make them worth doing.

    Jobs have changed over time from their original designs in response to player feedback. And so on...

    There's no reason why housing design can't also be changed in response to player feedback and how players actually engage with the system.

    Not certain why you bother bringing up Island Sanctuary when you acknowledge it's not going to be the answer to the housing problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You realize that Island Sanctuary's existence shows that instance server capacity is a non-issue. correct?
    Because its not just a capacity issue, its also a design philosophy. They don't want instanced housing, they made that clear a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Because its not just a capacity issue, its also a design philosophy. They don't want instanced housing, they made that clear a long time ago.
    As I said, just because something was the original design intent doesn't mean they can't reconsider in the face of player feedback. The design philosophy clearly isn't working when the majority of the player base isn't experiencing what they expected the outcome to be.

    Times change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    As I said, just because something was the original design intent doesn't mean they can't reconsider in the face of player feedback. The design philosophy clearly isn't working when the majority of the player base isn't experiencing what they expected the outcome to be.

    Times change.
    As far as SE is concerned it is working and its something players need to just accept. They have no intention of creating instanced housing and they have no intention of making accommodations for every player to be able to have a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    As far as SE is concerned it is working and its something players need to just accept. They have no intention of creating instanced housing and they have no intention of making accommodations for every player to be able to have a house.
    Recent citation needed. I can't recall SE making any statements in recent years that housing is working as intended, nor any statements in recent years that they have no interest in instanced housing considering instanced housing is already part of the game.

    But if you have links, I'll be happy to read them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    As far as SE is concerned it is working and its something players need to just accept. They have no intention of creating instanced housing and they have no intention of making accommodations for every player to be able to have a house.
    No one needs to accept anything. What a silly position to take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Because its not just a capacity issue, its also a design philosophy. They don't want instanced housing, they made that clear a long time ago.
    And it's a stupid design philosophy thus why we complain so much about it on the forums. As Jojoya said, providing feedback on the forums is how we have effected good change in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    And it's a stupid design philosophy thus why we complain so much about it on the forums. As Jojoya said, providing feedback on the forums is how we have effected good change in the game.
    Stupid to you maybe, but plenty of people find it perfectly fine and like the town feel. Swtor has instanced housing and it's lame as hell hiding in your little instanced house with no one to interact with and no other strongholds to run around in the open and look at for that town feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Stupid to you maybe, but plenty of people find it perfectly fine and like the town feel. Swtor has instanced housing and it's lame as hell hiding in your little instanced house with no one to interact with and no other strongholds to run around in the open and look at for that town feel.
    I'd rather have a house than not, thus why instance housing is so popular right now. They will never add enough wards to allow everyone to have a house, and for instanced "wards" Wildstar did it years ago where you could have several friends in an instanced area together with all their houses in that instance. The ward system worked when housing was FC only, but they opened it up to personals and caused the current issue. As hyperbolic as it sounds I am unable to play a portion of the game because of SE refusing to let everyone fully play their game. Not because of skill or time or effort, because of RNG due to artificial scarcity since they won't change their philosophy or design. Why should my sub be worth less than someone who has a house, let alone a large or medium plot because of outdated design philosophy?
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