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    600+ Empty Plots. Open Them to Personal Buyers

    As a preface, I own a house, I own the plot I wanted and I got it through the first lottery.
    I am speaking up as it just seems the right thing to do, especially as I know many people have not been able to get their (small) houses yet.

    Just did a look at every single ward on Adamantoise for Housing.
    In Empyreum alone there were 600 open FC slots, there were 0 for Personal housing.

    This is frankly, ridiculous. Especially as this isn't the end of the first lotto period anymore.

    I compiled a document of my findings which can be found here.



    Every single one of the Personal houses is going to be taken at the end of the next lotto period, the same really can't be said for all those FC houses.

    People are going to make their own "personal" FCs with their alts in to take these FC houses, which I'm sure is not what the dev team wanted.



    At the very least, open up the Smalls. Most FCs just seem to want Mediums and Larges.
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    Last edited by StarKorg; 06-04-2022 at 11:22 PM.

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    The answer is no, you would need a few more lottery rotations, so FC's get settled in first, the plots for normal buyers will open up soon enough again, but right now FC's get first dips, I suggest patience.
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    Even in the first round there were large with only one bid. On the 2nd round, very few mediums in FC wards received bids. FCs had their chance. All that is happening with the delays is that people with no strong attachment to their FC are using this time to create their own shell FC hoping to get a house for their characters, with all the extra perks attached to an FC house. It just encourages RMT, with FC houses already on the market: all they need to do is wait and pass the FC lead to the buyer or pass along the whole account created for that purpose for immediate transfer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    Even in the first round there were large with only one bid. On the 2nd round, very few mediums in FC wards received bids. FCs had their chance. All that is happening with the delays is that people with no strong attachment to their FC are using this time to create their own shell FC hoping to get a house for them and their alts, with all the extra perks attached to an FC house. It just encourages RMT, with FC houses already on the market: all they need to do is wait and pass the FC lead to the buyer or pass along the whole account created for that purpose for immediate transfer.
    would still need to wait 4-5 weeks if created a new FC for self to be able to buy a plot at all, at that time the wards will probably be unlocked anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    would still need to wait 4-5 weeks if created a new FC for self to be able to buy a plot at all, at that time the wards will probably be unlocked anyway.
    It’s been way more than 30 days already and several people have prepared. Atm on pur server there is only 1 medium available for private housing and between 4-6 small plots in each of the old cities. There are several medium, including in Empyreum (those never received bids), and lots of small plots available in the fc wards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    It’s been way more than 30 days already and several people have prepared. Atm on pur server there is only 1 medium available for private housing and between 4-6 small plots in each of the old cities. There are several medium, including in Empyreum (those never received bids), and lots of small plots available in the fc wards.
    That is a certain bugs fault that made it so postponed untill fixed, it still does not fix the problem with FC's not having settled in yet.

    A freight train does not start at max speed... it slowly gain more and more speed untill it reach its peak value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarKorg View Post
    As a preface, I own a house, I own the plot I wanted and I got it through the first lottery.
    I am speaking up as it just seems the right thing to do, especially as I know many people have not been able to get their (small) houses yet.

    Just did a look at every single ward on Adamantoise for Housing.
    In Empyreum alone there were 600 open FC slots, there were 0 for Personal housing.

    This is frankly, ridiculous. Especially as this isn't the end of the first lotto period anymore.

    I compiled a document of my findings which can be found here.



    Every single one of the Personal houses is going to be taken at the end of the next lotto period, the same really can't be said for all those FC houses.

    People are going to make their own "personal" FCs with their alts in to take these FC houses, which I'm sure is not what the dev team wanted.



    At the very least, open up the Smalls. Most FCs just seem to want Mediums and Larges.
    I hope you do realize the only reason those small plots are still open is because most of FCs are still trying their luck with large and medium.
    Now with all large and medium now occuped, those small will be gone soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    I hope you do realize the only reason those small plots are still open is because most of FCs are still trying their luck with large and medium.
    Now with all large and medium now occuped, those small will be gone soon
    I think you're severely overestimating the number of FCs still trying to purchase a first house and underestimating the number that already have a house but are trying to relocate to a bigger plot.

    Bid counts on the remaining mediums on Coeurl were very low for the most part in the last lottery (in the 1-3 range). The few larges were still getting some decent numbers but again, far more likely those were representing relocators than unique new FCs trying to hit the jackpot.

    I doubt that more than 10% of the remaining FC supply is going to get sold until the shell FCs move in to get them. No telling how many shell FCs are waiting out their 30 days since it was pretty apparent that was going to be the only viable way for most players to get a house for personal use (and that RMT would continue to have room to thrive under the new housing purchase rules).
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    On Balmung:
    Goblet has 8 individual sale plots open.
    Mist has 3.
    Shirogane has 2.
    Lavender Beds has 1.
    And the new Ishgard wards, have 1.
    Even Goblet, a historically unpopular zone with the most open plots available, has ~25 people bidding at each plot on average on the first day. EDIT: as of 6/6, the goblet's private homes now have 50+ bids each. The other wards are worse. Obviously it's only going to intensify as the raffle continues.

    And you know what? Now that all these 3-man "free companies" are eligible to bid in FC-only zones, it's probably too late to even fix this issue by opening more FC wards. Because this bidding cycle will "magically" have a lot of additional competition in the form of FCs that didn't exist until a month ago. This is why I and a bunch of other people were saying they should've opened the wards up to private buyers ASAP before shell FCs could eat up the small plots that real FCs had decided they were too good for. At this point, the only immediate solution is to simply open more wards and only allow private buying. And as an extra gut punch, if you own an FC made in the last month with less than 5 people in it and you recently purchased a home for that FC, you're also locked out of individually-buying from this ward, because screw you. I can dream.

    This system is ass. More wards, or instanced please. Lotto would've gotten to this point eventually, but due to total ineptitude at SE, it's reached endgame mode in like 3 cycles. Literally everything that could've been done wrong, was.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 06-06-2022 at 06:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Lotto would've gotten to this point eventually, but due to total ineptitude at SE, it's reached endgame mode in like 3 cycles. Literally everything that could've been done wrong, was.
    On Balmung the lotto was always going to get to this point in 3 or so cycles. The difference is that the 0 issue gave the people who werent prepared in advance time to get their shell FCs started and through the waiting period. So they got to bid in round 2, rather then round 5+.
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