What's even the point of doing savage?

[Renathras]

It's "Patchwerk".

And simulationcraft still uses it as a Sim setting.

It's certainly not what you should base design around.

I don't disagree...but that also wasn't my point.

My point was that FFXIV Savages are not some braindead easyfest that doesn't live up to modern MMO raid standards. It's on par in difficulty with the best in the business, though it prioritizes different skills. THAT was my argument.