What's even the point of doing savage?

[Absurdity]

I would say that the difficulcy inbetween the MSQ and Savage is Extreme Trials. For an average player that just starts with endgame content they provide the needed level of challenge that shows that the content they're stepping in is more serious and it's going to be harder from now on. (We can argue about wherever Extreme is enough to prepare for Savage, but regardless it's a first step that people who want to try Savage, imo, should take, and that a lot of them skip.

You're correct, extreme trials are an important step to get into savage that is often skipped, although you can get carried through ex trials with very few issues and learn nothing from it.

I would however argue that even the step up from dungeons into ex trials is too steep, MSQ and dungeons don't really prepare you for any kind of difficulty increase.

Depends slightly on the Data Center. I started this tier very late into the cycle, but my experience is not always, but generally is positive on Elemental. When I was on Chaos, this late into the cycle it was a bit of a pain, yep.

It... would probably, but certainly wouldn't have been as big as it is now.

On Light during ShB it was incredibly painful. During the really long drought of 5.3 it got to the point where you couldn't even clear E5s with a "farm" group anymore.


I'm not trying to bash the story in this case, even if I have some massive gripes with it recently.

It's simply a fact that the MSQ is not going to last you 4 months until the next patch and if a majority of people would cancel their sub as soon as they were done SE would have to deal with close to 0 incoming cash from the game for 3 months.