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  1. #1
    Player
    Bakabear's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Sarito Yanato
    World
    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90

    Why isn't this player getting punished?

    I came across a player and got familiar with them a bit, but it soon became very blatant that they were using very game breaking cheats and resources.
    Position hacks, purchasing large sums of gil, and the more minor things in comparison on top of that.

    I don't just say that as an intuition, they had outright admitted to many of these things and in Discord would very blatantly post screenshots and videos of these cheats from their own in-game perspective to the groups they were in.

    That being said, I put in multiple reports about this with evidence that couldn't be clearer as to what they were doing. Their own videos. Things that only their screen of perception could do, position hacking, botting, admissions of purchasing gil through third-party RMT sites, and almost everything that the could go onto the list of unfair play.

    I submitted all of this evidence to the support desk yet months upon months have passed and this player is still actively playing with all of this. How is it that harassment reports are so easily accepted and resolved, but blatant cheating with irrefutable evidence goes unpunished?

    I truly don't understand.
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  2. #2
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    Doc_Seraph's Avatar
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    Doc Seraph
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Kupo if they really need to cheat at this easy game you should pray for them because it is obvious they are lacking in certain areas. kupo <3
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    Kupo!

  3. #3
    Player Ivtrix's Avatar
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bakabear View Post
    I came across a player and got familiar with them a bit, but it soon became very blatant that they were using very game breaking cheats and resources.
    Position hacks, purchasing large sums of gil, and the more minor things in comparison on top of that.

    I don't just say that as an intuition, they had outright admitted to many of these things and in Discord would very blatantly post screenshots and videos of these cheats from their own in-game perspective to the groups they were in.

    That being said, I put in multiple reports about this with evidence that couldn't be clearer as to what they were doing. Their own videos. Things that only their screen of perception could do, position hacking, botting, admissions of purchasing gil through third-party RMT sites, and almost everything that the could go onto the list of unfair play.

    I submitted all of this evidence to the support desk yet months upon months have passed and this player is still actively playing with all of this. How is it that harassment reports are so easily accepted and resolved, but blatant cheating with irrefutable evidence goes unpunished?

    I truly don't understand.
    sorry, all income went to FF16. no money to support this game

    please look forward to it
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  4. #4
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Why the hell would they have videos of themselves cheating?
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  6. #5
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    Avoidy's Avatar
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 83
    OP, don't lose sleep over this. If SE doesn't care enough to police their own game when evidence is dumped in front of them, then you shouldn't either. There's a guy on balmung who used to use speedhacks in Ul'dah every day to casually zip around in front of hundreds of players. Nothing happened to him. Either nobody in that entire town bothered reporting him (actually really likely; navigating the report menu is a mess for most people) or nobody working at square cares about cheaters as long as there's no community pressure (e.g. with the recent world first event) and they continue to pay a sub. You dumped a mountain of evidence in front of them and this guy's still playing, so I'll leave it up to you to work that one out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Why the hell would they have videos of themselves cheating?
    Maybe OP's new friend is a streamer, lmao
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    Player
    Syln's Avatar
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    Character
    Saya Finwel
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    There's a reason why Pride is a cardinal sin
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  8. #7
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    Amorzinho's Avatar
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    Character
    Ashelia Demetria
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Just blacklist and stay away from that person, SE will do nothing about it
    On my server have 2 players that say tons of homophobics and racist slurs every day for months now, one even on Novice Network, they got reported a lot of times and they still there, saying the same stuffs over and over
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  9. #8
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    Kranel_San's Avatar
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    Krann Starwarden
    World
    Zodiark
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Why the hell would they have videos of themselves cheating?
    It's a mistake to assume all people are intelligent.
    In shorter words, stupidity does wonders.
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  10. #9
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Padudu Moro
    World
    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    It's a mistake to assume all people are intelligent.
    In shorter words, stupidity does wonders.
    Is it really stupidity when they're not getting punished for it? Might as well be a flex, "I can get away with cheating, lmao @ me".
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  11. #10
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Character
    Marielle Sansoleil
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bakabear View Post
    I came across a player and got familiar with them a bit, but it soon became very blatant that they were using very game breaking cheats and resources.
    Position hacks, purchasing large sums of gil, and the more minor things in comparison on top of that.

    I don't just say that as an intuition, they had outright admitted to many of these things and in Discord would very blatantly post screenshots and videos of these cheats from their own in-game perspective to the groups they were in.

    That being said, I put in multiple reports about this with evidence that couldn't be clearer as to what they were doing. Their own videos. Things that only their screen of perception could do, position hacking, botting, admissions of purchasing gil through third-party RMT sites, and almost everything that the could go onto the list of unfair play.

    I submitted all of this evidence to the support desk yet months upon months have passed and this player is still actively playing with all of this. How is it that harassment reports are so easily accepted and resolved, but blatant cheating with irrefutable evidence goes unpunished?

    I truly don't understand.
    Well, if you have actual proof, and actual links to their stream that SE can watch, then they would get banned, if they are actually in violation of the TOS. So there seems to be a disconnect between what you are saying and what is actually happening.

    Does your proof include information such as Visible Character Name and Server? Has to be on their stream, that SE can access directly. You giving a screen shot of Discord isn't proof. Especially if their is no Character data visible. Example: Person admits to doing something illegal on Discord, say Murder, they don't use their legal name, or indicate where they live or where the crime took place, can the cops do anything? esp if the person in question is using a VPN, so even the Discord Data can't be used.

    Evidence of wrong doing needs to be provable by Square Enix for them to take action, as they are very conscious of legalities in some places that forbid wrongful punishments. Unlike Blizzard Activision which has essential legal immunity thanks to its larger budget and bigger legal team, Square Enix is actually a fairly small company, and has a smaller legal department.
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