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  1. #1
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    Jokerz's Avatar
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    Axel Smith
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    Sorta, but make the dungeon 3 times as big and add alot more content to it. Make it where you cannot do everything in 1 run.

    No more mini boss => mainboss.

    I want multiple NMs, some rare spawn in there. I want farmable force spawns in there. I want side quest in there. I want things that trigger spawns in there.
    You want salvage!

    Issue regarding timers from what I've seen the timers usually give more than enough time for a party to clear the content accordingly the only time I've actually been close to time running out is when multiple wipes had occurred.
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    Colino's Avatar
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    Colino Nyea
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    Omega
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    I can understand SOME dungeons requiring a speedrun to reap the most benefits, but basing every single raid off of this is starting to get really really dull.
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    Khazar Karnak
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I hate these timed intances too, it awards leave the mobs behind, it have no sense, these last 2 dungeons (aurum and cutters) obbey you to kill some but i think it continues to be stupid, bosses which needs speed to kill them beacuse of enrage mode or something its ok but not the entire dungeon.
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    ??? Do people actually run out of time on these missions?

    I don't really see what the problem is. They need to have timers on those instances because otherwise, people could be in them forever and block others from entering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    ??? Do people actually run out of time on these missions?

    I don't really see what the problem is. They need to have timers on those instances because otherwise, people could be in them forever and block others from entering.
    Lol implying there is a timer for that reason in the first way. If they wanted dungeons to be less crowded, we would have a higher cooldown instead. 1hr timer doesn't prevent you to retry the dungeon as much as you want. As for "people could be in forever", just add an AFK/inactivity timer, says 1 hour without doing anything gets you kicked.

    Other games have "endless" raid areas and it isn't an issue. Time for SE to invest into proper servers.
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    Galliano's Avatar
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    Character
    Mog Net
    World
    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    It's the speed run that is the issue, If a dungeon has a 60minute timer on it then I should be able to spend 60 minutes in said dungeon and still have a chance of obtaining all possible loot. Having to skip past mobs I would like to fight just to get to the end of the dungeon as fast as possible is crazy! surely SE want us to experience and explore the dungeons and not skip through them all to fight a boss. Hell may as well just make them a boss battle with a timer and not bother with the dungeon.
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    Ishiene Phye
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Have you not seen the moon in the sky? Next update it will have a face and then the Bards will have to learn the song of time.
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    Ul'dah, where else?
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    Speed run is the issue, bring us a 4-5hr long Dynamis Ul'dah, Dynamis Gridania and Dynamis Limsa Lominsa (or something similar to not completly clone FFXI)

    And make us come back every other day for 3 years to get the drops we want

    Oh and if they removed the timers and allowed solo players in, I would get as many people as I could to afk in them, just to conjest them and show you all why timers are required (also if the timers are causing you problems, you are doing something wrong.)
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    If a dungeon has a 60minute timer on it then I should be able to spend 60 minutes in said dungeon and still have a chance of obtaining all possible loot.
    You're not missing loot by skipping trash mobs. they're called trash mobs for a reason.

    As far as drop rates and timers, i've already expounded on this a lot, but what I would like to see for the standard typical dungeon/content is "2 times per day." Not 12 hours, because you probably won't be able to use both times a day even if you want to. E.g. you use a variant on the leve timer where you have 2 charges come back (with a maximum of 2) each day.

    Lol implying there is a timer for that reason in the first way. If they wanted dungeons to be less crowded, we would have a higher cooldown instead.
    Higher cooldowns would not prevent this kind of abuse. That being said, I'd still like to see what I described above, 1-2 times a day. Flexibility without spammability.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 05-29-2012 at 03:26 AM.

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    Dirk Mire
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    Adamantoise
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    Botanist Lv 55
    GAH.... SE failing at E3 is ruining my threads popularity. Need more thumbs up Meow!
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