How do you feel about MP?

[Leonerdo]

To me, it feels like MP doesn't matter any more. Now that lilies have been buffed, it's so hard to run out of MP on any healer, unless you completely forget about Lucid Dreaming for several minutes. And that's with every healer avoiding Piety like the plague. So what's the point of having MP at all? Just to make death even more punishing? To encourage newbie healers to stop spamming AoE heals when everyone is at full health?

Personally, I like it when I occasionally have to worry about MP. It can be an extra bit of complexity for the healing puzzle. I wonder what it would be like if oGCD heals cost MP.

I dunno, how do y'all feel about it? Should MP management be an important element of healer gameplay? Should it just be a niche optimization? Or is it boring/outdated and not worth the time to fix it?

[Canadane]

Not only should it be something to worry, I wanna bring back TP too.
Resource management is part of the fun of combat and without it you're just pressing buttons.

[Shurrikhan]

Not only should it be something to worry, I wanna bring back TP too.
Resource management is part of the fun of combat and without it you're just pressing buttons.

I feel like the only remotely relevant reason to bring back TP would be DRK and PLD. Otherwise, why have two separate gauges just to arbitrarily waste one or the other? Apart from those two hybrids, all would be either a pink gauge class or a yellow gauge class, with no crossover. That or you'd have to somehow add meaningful TP usage to every caster.

Then again, "meaningful" is a higher standard than any MP users follows right now. Outside of, again, DRK and PLD, MP gauges are basically just soft rez-charge meters.

And as Semirhage mentioned, constraints are only as interesting as your ability to maneuver around them is more interestingly than what gameplay would be present without those constraints. Simply losing access to your kit every other GCD after X minutes is fun to no one.

If you can't actually manage it (only be managed/stopped by it) --and in more depth than just hitting a bloat button once per minute or two-- it's not resource management.

[JisKing98]

Not only should it be something to worry, I wanna bring back TP too.
Resource management is part of the fun of combat and without it you're just pressing buttons.

As a former monk no, just no. Tp leaving was the best thing. MP needs higher cost but with some abilities give back mp like what ast/sage do. plus lower regen by like maybe 10% or so. something like that

[Shurrikhan]

As a former monk no, just no. Tp leaving was the best thing.

This.

TP = "Here, I heard some people were taking Skill Speed beyond a minimum threshold, mistakenly thinking this game should offer gameplay choice through its stats. Let's fix that and make it very clear that only one stat should be king. Embrace BiS; reject customization."

[Hellebore_Ghrian]

MP are only a thing to limit consecutive resurrection and that's all.

Outside of that it's only a system which force you to push 1 button every minutes so, a basically useless system nowadays.

[Semirhage]

MP is only interesting if you have to make choices to conserve it. Since current healer kits have almost no choices in them, it would be like Heavensward WHM; you just run out of MP doing what you're supposed to do, and there's not much of anything you can do about it other than standing around not doing anything and waiting for MP ticks.

[Nizzi]

Does any job actually use MP in a slightly interesting way other than BLM? I feel like RDM, SMN and every healer are just "hit Lucid/Aetherflow/Cards/etc on CD lmao" and that's the extent of ""management"" on them all. On any healer, I'm never doing anything interesting with my MP, it's just slowly being depleted by Broil spam until I hit Aetherflow and Lucid again. I don't want it removed but other than preventing someone from just spamming GCD heals and being able to res more, what really would change if it was removed?

[QooEr]

Does any job actually use MP in a slightly interesting way other than BLM? I feel like RDM, SMN and every healer are just "hit Lucid/Aetherflow/Cards/etc on CD lmao" and that's the extent of ""management"" on them all. On any healer, I'm never doing anything interesting with my MP, it's just slowly being depleted by Broil spam until I hit Aetherflow and Lucid again. I don't want it removed but other than preventing someone from just spamming GCD heals and being able to res more, what really would change if it was removed?

pld, drk and tank!blu all have more mp management than all the healers

[Rongway]

pld, drk and tank!blu all have more mp management than all the healers

DRK maybe, but PLD's MP is an illusion--the correct choice is to spend your whole bar during Requiescat, and therefore there is no choice.