Action condensing options

[Croatoan]

There should be the OPTION to make all weaponskill combos "one-button" chains instead of requiring you to press a sequence of 3 different keys.
There're also several actions that should be optionally consolidated to 1 key. AST's draw/play for example.
If implemented, this wouldn't grant any kind of advantage or effect other players in the least.

[Shurrikhan]

There should be the OPTION to make all weaponskill combos "one-button" chains instead of requiring you to press a sequence of 3 different keys.

Technically, by removing the brain-dead, fat-finger trap of our "combos" (not actually skill combinations in any practice, but merely singular multi-GCD actions), they can provide a slight advantage, though really to those most screwed over by those physical traps (e.g., those with impaired dexterity).

But, get rid of that fat fingering, such that one can only hit skills which restart the same combo, start a new combo, or continue into (one of) the next step(s) of the combo, and that advantage would be removed.

But yes, I'm all for the option, if combos are to remain rigid sequences and therefore really only each a singular decision. I see no problem with single, irreducible decisions having a singular button.

...I'd technically prefer actual combos, but that is a distant pipedream.

[Saraide]

And yet when checking many logs of many different players on real content you very often see missed combos. If the 2-3 spaces on your hotbar you free up make or break your setup, then the issue isnt combo buttons taking up multiple spaces, it's that your hotbar setup sucks.

Pointing to it being an option is completely meaningless. Job difficulty and mechanical difficulty is always connected, make one easier and you make the other easier aswell.

[Jeeqbit]

You have the option to play a healer.

[Scruit_Bigtime]

here i as hoping this was a post asking AST play/draw and play minor/draw minor arcana to be combined

which i'd welcome.

removing the 1-2-3 combos will just lead to people saying "game boring all i do is spam 1 over and over"
if pressing 3 buttons in sequence is hard... i dont know what to say

[Shurrikhan]

And yet when checking many logs of many different players on real content you very often see missed combos. If the 2-3 spaces on your hotbar you free up make or break your setup, then the issue isnt combo buttons taking up multiple spaces, it's that your hotbar setup sucks.

A setup can be smoother and more intuitive to the point of creating a more enjoyable experience by trimming the 2-7 redundant buttons of each combo step having its own key without that "making or breaking" the setup as a whole. There are more and finer thresholds than just "broken" and "workable".

Job difficulty and mechanical difficulty is always connected, make one easier and you make the other easier aswell.

If we're to call not even having the option to forgo button bloat a worthwhile contribution to "mechanical difficulty", then where does that end?

The same would then apply to anything, even just lack of polish. If the way anything gives something more to manage (to do or not do, however unfun it may be), then that would excuse its cost to polish or other gameplay options.

• This skill is bugged and does less potency that is stated? Well, those who know are rewarded, so that's an extra measure of skill-gap and therefore beneficial.
  
  
• This skill crashes the game? Well, like all but your 1-2 GCDs in combo sequence, don't press it. Those who don't get rewarded. Surely that's worth the extra button.

There are gameplay reasons to keep the option of having each step even of a singular, inflexible decision require its own button, but "mechanical difficulty" ain't it.
Tactile feel? Sure. But pure traps aren't worth spending buttons on.

[Dionysius]

How are you gonna "queue" the buttons if it's condensed into one?

[Mikey_R]

How are you gonna "queue" the buttons if it's condensed into one?

The same way they have always been queued? Go to the Wolves Den, pick any melee DPS/Tank and see how the combo still behaves the same way as if you had separate buttons.

[Lustre]

Why do people keep asking for this? It gives me a strong "I want to roll my face on the keyboard and collect my rewards" vibe

[Saraide]

A setup can be smoother and more intuitive to the point of creating a more enjoyable experience by trimming the 2-7 redundant buttons of each combo step having its own key without that "making or breaking" the setup as a whole. There are more and finer thresholds than just "broken" and "workable".


If we're to call not even having the option to forgo button bloat a worthwhile contribution to "mechanical difficulty", then where does that end?

The same would then apply to anything, even just lack of polish. If the way anything gives something more to manage (to do or not do, however unfun it may be), then that would excuse its cost to polish or other gameplay options.

• This skill is bugged and does less potency that is stated? Well, those who know are rewarded, so that's an extra measure of skill-gap and therefore beneficial.
  This skill crashes the game? Well, like all but your 1-2 GCDs in combo sequence, don't press it. Those who don't get rewarded. Surely that's worth the extra button.

There are gameplay reasons to keep the option of having each step even of a singular, inflexible decision require its own button, but "mechanical difficulty" ain't it.
Tactile feel? Sure. But pure traps aren't worth spending buttons on.

I'm all for a fine tuned approach of changing jobs, a sledge hammer approach solves nothing. You accuse me of going to extremes but then do it yourself, I suppose we're both guilty of it if we're being honest.

For example I didnt mind the cartridge combo collapse on gunbreaker. Why? Because you already couldnt misclick the combo. As it is on the jobs that have it, combo steps require you to pay attention that would be freed up otherwise. If you look at logs that arent particularly high, combo breaking is happening a lot so it absolutely would change balancing as a whole. Combo collapse isnt a just tiny QoL thing.

I would much prefer for the devs to have a specific vision for each job in mind and then stick to it all the way. There is already the option to not engage with standard combos: it's called playing a job that doesnt use them.