Glamour Question

[Unholychinchilla]

I do wonder whether they are actually happy with bikini tanks or if it's just something they can't block from being an option, given the way the glamour system works. They can't really make seasonal gear anything other than level 1 all-class gear, or it would make it more difficult to wear the outfit at the event – but that means you can also wear it anywhere else.

If that were the case they'd probably be less eager to throw in new casual glamour pieces every major patch. They seem quite happy to throw in more and more such options. The sweater and jeans clad characters are no more displaying a class identity than the bikini ones.

Also as I see it, regarding aesthetics rather than practical defence, a healer in bikini and tank in bikini are both equally "not wearing proper battle outfits" for their role.

This is true but the main argument Yoshi-P has used against easing job restrictions is being able to look at a character and see their job which as stated is out the window already with bikini's, casual glams and costume glams.

To my mind that purpose is adequately filled by weapons and battle animations/stances. I don't think anybody is advocating glamouring Chakrams onto axes and guns on katana, as that would mess up animations.

[DevonEllwood]

I really thought it was a coding issue, can only glamour the same thing you can equip or whatever. I no longer think that's the case and I feel each piece is coded separately as glamour, mostly because of a bug that ended up happening in shadowbringers. Certain jewelry items (ones I saw were High Allagan and GARO earrings) could not be glamoured to certain classes despite them being equipable by ALL classes. They were a part of my glamour plates for a long time and were suddenly un glamourable for some reason, yet I could take them out and equip them directly. This isn't proof that glamour is coded separately, but it seems it might be the case? I still have the images from when I was going to make the bug report.

Has the red X there for something that can't be glamoured to the current class.

[Iscah]

I really thought it was a coding issue, can only glamour the same thing you can equip or whatever. I no longer think that's the case and I feel each piece is coded separately as glamour, mostly because of a bug that ended up happening in shadowbringers. Certain jewelry items (ones I saw were High Allagan and GARO earrings) could not be glamoured to certain classes despite them being equipable by ALL classes.

Were you wearing your level 1 EXP-boosting earring? It won't take any glamours except other level 1 pieces.

[Rongway]

The biggest problem every time we have this argument is that somebody says the word "job" instead of "role", e.g., "We should be able to glamour any job's gear". No. That is the wrong word to use and if you use that word, whoever is relaying things to Yoshi-P will use the word "job" and he will say no. Literally every time. We have never had this discussion without people using the word "job" to say what they want. He's always going to say no because he doesn't want jobs running around in other jobs' weapons and AF gear. The only way we're going to get role restrictions lifted on glamours is for someone to tell him specifically that people want to be able to glamour gear from any role, which would be far easier to argue, without removing the restrictions from weapons and AF gear.

[Haruka_R]

The biggest problem every time we have this argument is that somebody says the word "job" instead of "role", e.g., "We should be able to glamour any job's gear". No. That is the wrong word to use and if you use that word, whoever is relaying things to Yoshi-P will use the word "job" and he will say no. Literally every time. We have never had this discussion without people using the word "job" to say what they want. He's always going to say no because he doesn't want jobs running around in other jobs' weapons and AF gear. The only way we're going to get role restrictions lifted on glamours is for someone to tell him specifically that people want to be able to glamour gear from any role, which would be far easier to argue, without removing the restrictions from weapons and AF gear.

He will find a way to tell us no whether we use the correct wording or not / regardless of mistranslation.

[anhaato]

They shouldn't remove restrictions because my immersion should come at everyone else's expense!

[Lihtleita]

everyone loves job identity until someone points out that maiming and fending share 90 percent of the same models with a shoulder pad removed