Glamour Question

[Haruka_R]

It’s nice to see gear on a player and have a good idea of their job. I like having job identities and would prefer to not see a BLM wearing WHM gear.

We have enough no job/class glamour items out there. Having job/role identity is a good thing.

I'm sharing gear with Casters, and most Aiming gear looks like it belongs to Scouting.

[ListenDana]

I'm still kind of baffled by someone genuinely thinking all jobs should look the same.

In an MMO.

With a cosmetic system.

If you want the class to look the same every time go play one of the solo entries.

[Iscah]

Again, this kind of went out the window once cash shop clothes entered the picture.

My point is that the cash shop stuff is part of the group of things they aren't precious about. There are some things they are happy to spread around and some things they keep specific.

[Amenara]

It’s nice to see gear on a player and have a good idea of their job. I like having job identities and would prefer to not see a BLM wearing WHM gear.

We have enough no job/class glamour items out there. Having job/role identity is a good thing.

Nothing says job identity like a warrior wearing a bikini.

[Packetdancer]

I mean, I could talk until I'm blue in the face about how I'd love more options for healers.

But really, what I'd like is just to have artifact gear become only restricted to the role if you've leveled all the jobs in that role. Mostly because I can't ever use artifact gear as a glamour due to the restrictions; if I glamoured myself in the Endwalker GNB artifact or SGE gear for those jobs -- both sets I quite like -- and then I was out in the field and wanted to change to WAR or WHM, I'm out of luck; even though the underlying gear is Fending or Healing, it being glamoured to the artifact gear means I cannot equip it. Thus, I have to teleport back to a hub and swap jobs where glamour plates can be applied.

Having it so that if you level all tanks to 90, the tank artifact gear becomes treated like Fending instead of a job-specific set... that'd be a nice perk for leveling all the jobs within a role, and would do away with that annoyance for me.

(Admittedly, so would being able to just apply a glamour plate everywhere so that I knew if I had been GNB and swapped to WAR, the gear would re-glamour and thus equip... but we know that one's a technical limitation due to how glamour works under the hood. And they've demonstrated that gear traits can now be conditionally tied to achievements -- witness artifact gear only being able to be dyed if you've finished the role questlines for Endwalker -- so flipping the job list based on an achievement for leveling all the jobs within a role should at least hypothetically be possible.)

[Flaws]

There is no good reason for it. There has been no job identity in this game for years. Some gear is overlapping and is being reused between different jobs/roles over the years and a lot of the time it doesn't even fit the job to begin with. Then you have stuff like the Nier raids gear which just has different sleeves and whatnot. There is absolutely no reason or excuse for us to be limited at this point. The other thread by Siddiax is very spot on with all this. I hope the devs take note.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I mean, I could talk until I'm blue in the face about how I'd love more options for healers.

But really, what I'd like is just to have artifact gear become only restricted to the role if you've leveled all the jobs in that role. Mostly because I can't ever use artifact gear as a glamour due to the restrictions; if I glamoured myself in the Endwalker GNB artifact or SGE gear for those jobs -- both sets I quite like -- and then I was out in the field and wanted to change to WAR or WHM, I'm out of luck; even though the underlying gear is Fending or Healing, it being glamoured to the artifact gear means I cannot equip it. Thus, I have to teleport back to a hub and swap jobs where glamour plates can be applied.

Having it so that if you level all tanks to 90, the tank artifact gear becomes treated like Fending instead of a job-specific set... that'd be a nice perk for leveling all the jobs within a role, and would do away with that annoyance for me.

(Admittedly, so would being able to just apply a glamour plate everywhere so that I knew if I had been GNB and swapped to WAR, the gear would re-glamour and thus equip... but we know that one's a technical limitation due to how glamour works under the hood. And they've demonstrated that gear traits can now be conditionally tied to achievements -- witness artifact gear only being able to be dyed if you've finished the role questlines for Endwalker -- so flipping the job list based on an achievement for leveling all the jobs within a role should at least hypothetically be possible.)

You can still wear the gear, it just won't show the glamour if the job isn't compatible. You'll just see the unglamoured gear instead. I have my MCH goggles glammed on my aiming gear, switching to another aiming job where I can't use plates just shows the normal head gear.

[Vatom]

I'm still kind of baffled by someone genuinely thinking all jobs should look the same.

In an MMO.

With a cosmetic system.

If you want the class to look the same every time go play one of the solo entries.

Glad someone said it

[Punslinger]

It’s nice to see gear on a player and have a good idea of their job. I like having job identities and would prefer to not see a BLM wearing WHM gear.

We have enough no job/class glamour items out there. Having job/role identity is a good thing.

Now do bikini tanks.

[Iscah]

I do wonder whether they are actually happy with bikini tanks or if it's just something they can't block from being an option, given the way the glamour system works. They can't really make seasonal gear anything other than level 1 all-class gear, or it would make it more difficult to wear the outfit at the event – but that means you can also wear it anywhere else.

Also as I see it, regarding aesthetics rather than practical defence, a healer in bikini and tank in bikini are both equally "not wearing proper battle outfits" for their role.