Glamour Question

[ListenDana]

I'm sure it has something to do with how the game is coded, but on the off chance it isn't: What reason is there for glamors to have the same requirements to wear as using it as armor?

It's an illusion that provides no combat bonuses, and it's pretty frustrating when items that would go well together can't be worn together for an ultimately arbitrary reason.

What, are you going to trick people somehow?

[BrokentoothMarch]

I'm sure it has something to do with how the game is coded, but on the off chance it isn't: What reason is there for glamors to have the same requirements to wear as using it as armor?

It's an illusion that provides no combat bonuses, and it's pretty frustrating when items that would go well together can't be worn together for an ultimately arbitrary reason.

What, are you going to trick people somehow?

There is no reason and I truly doubt it has anything to do with code as far as my limited-but-present knowledge of the stuff knows.
It just is because it is.

[Tsiron]

We don't know for sure whether unrestricted Glamour is being held back by code or just the developers not wanting to do it (because "immersion"), so all we can do is try and make ourselves heard!

With that in mind, I highly recommend also posting in this thread we've got going for that exact purpose, as the more replies a thread gets the better its chances of making it to the devs!

[Hyperia]

It’s nice to see gear on a player and have a good idea of their job. I like having job identities and would prefer to not see a BLM wearing WHM gear.

We have enough no job/class glamour items out there. Having job/role identity is a good thing.

[BrokentoothMarch]

It’s nice to see gear on a player and have a good idea of their job. I like having job identities and would prefer to not see a BLM wearing WHM gear.

We have enough no job/class glamour items out there. Having job/role identity is a good thing.

It truly takes an XIV player to advocate less options as a good thing.

[ListenDana]

It’s nice to see gear on a player and have a good idea of their job. I like having job identities and would prefer to not see a BLM wearing WHM gear.

We have enough no job/class glamour items out there. Having job/role identity is a good thing.

I'm going to have to disagree, I like glams that look *nothing* like what your job should be. (A light-themed reaper or dark knight for example.)

You don't need to know someone's job at a glance, it's a game with a cosmetic system.

Live a little.

[Tsiron]

Always weird to me to see people vehemently oppose the suggestion, as though it wouldn't be entirely optional (especially if the feature needs to be unlocked first somehow). You already can't do anything about Tanks in swimsuits or absurd animal costumes or Healers wearing the Archfiend set, so how is someone wearing, idk, a pair of boots they previously weren't able to that much worse...?

[ListenDana]

Always weird to me to see people vehemently oppose the suggestion, as though it wouldn't be entirely optional (especially if the feature needs to be unlocked first somehow). You already can't do anything about Tanks in swimsuits or absurd animal costumes or Healers wearing the Archfiend set, so how is someone wearing, idk, a pair of boots they previously weren't able to that much worse...?

Exactly.

I can already wear a sweater, sunglasses, jeans and sneakers to a high fantasy fight with a dragon.

Your immersion was never going to stay intact, why not go all in?

[Iscah]

It may be that visually equipping an item is inherently locked to the coding that checks whether you can wear it as your current class, or it may be an aesthetic choice by the devs.

My impression is that they are happy to share some designs around between classes but others they want to keep locked – job gear in particular, but also some sets of dungeon gear get assigned to the same roles every time they are reused, and those are usually the more distinctly role-aspected ones with mages in robes and tanks in armour.

I suspect that if it is possible to unlock glamours, it could be "all or nothing" and they don't want unlock all.

[ListenDana]

It may be that visually equipping an item is inherently locked to the coding that checks whether you can wear it as your current class, or it may be an aesthetic choice by the devs. My impression is that they are happy to share some designs around between classes but others they want to keep locked – job gear in particular, but also some sets of dungeon gear get assigned to the same roles every time they are reused, and those are usually the more distinctly role-aspected ones with mages in robes and tanks in armour.

Again, this kind of went out the window once cash shop clothes entered the picture.