My 6.11b patch notes (if I were a dev)

[Petite]

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[drtasteyummy]

If that would go live for Samurai you could throw him in the trash for real. That is like removing his LB completely, waiting over 2 minutes to have to bait your defensive cooldown into people just to 4/5 their hp while they pot up in the next tick? lmao give me Seiton any day for this garbage, I'd rather take your nerfed Seiton over the garbage Samurai has right now without your nerfs, it's that much better.

[BubblyBoar]

I'm so glad the forums aren't the balancing team.

[Lammas]

Just touching on some of these.

Differentiating friendly and enemy DRG LBs would be enough for me. It's one of the easiest things in the game to counter-play: you see it and you press guard. The only issue with that one is the friend or foe identification. I personally wouldn't mind adding some kind of a visual effect for being under horrid roar.

GCD LB's won't and IMO shouldn't be happening. There's nothing wrong with LBs being used as part of kill combos especially if it's very clear that the LBs whole purpose is a single target delete like MCH's is. I don't know what the point of making a heal-down not stack with Frazzle is when there's more heal downs in the mode (Sole survivor, Mummification) which, as far as I know, all stack. Why the heck would you make those 2 specifically not stack? That said MCH is already strong and giving it an effect that strong would really be pushing it, even with your LB nerf.

Not quite feeling those SAM changes over all. While I'm all for adding better visual cues, Chiten already has rather clear activation animation. If you want to add something lasting to it then make the initial animation just play through out the duration. No need to pull a completely new one. Also the LB is not a line AOE, it's a circle around your target.

I doubt anyone would ever touch WAR or WHM again with those changes. That's not objective tweaking, that's just a straight up butchery. You seem to think they're some kind of untouchable SSS+ tiers. They're not.

I really don't see the point of wanting to make things like DRG LB or SAM Chiten easier to see and then go 180 degrees on BLM LB and claim that it should be harder to see. All that would do is make some bad players not realize that you've LB'd. It wouldn't fool anyone decent and obscuring important information is seriously not a direction I'd want to go either way.

[Naphtha]

GCD LBs sounds like the worst possible gameplay experience known to man. Also buffing NIN LB damage makes 0 sense to me, you already executed someone, no reason you also get to take another player down to 50% hp from full, shouldn't get rewarded for rushing to execute with no opportunity for a follow-up kill imo. Not gonna lie, I didn't read much else, kinda thought it was satire.

[Latarma]

I'm so glad the forums aren't the balancing team.

agreed after to patches of pvp my job drg has gotten no love I'm not saying give me all the things but a few like may be cc of my own

[Petite]

Reading the replies, I regret making this thread. People see a point they disagree with, dismiss the whole thing and offer little or no explanation.

I was hoping to see alternative suggestions, adjustments or discussions around some of the changes.

On a side note, people also seem very offended about LB nerfs, yet LBs are all people whine about on these forums.

Nevermind.

[Naphtha]

On a side note, people also seem very offended about LB nerfs

No one is offended at the idea of LB nerfs, people just don't want to play with GCD LBs because there is absolutely no way on earth it would feel good for the player, oGCDs are important to keep things interesting and combo different abilities together. Your way of nerfing might work on paper, but it doesn't seem fun at all. I'm not sure what you expect in terms of feedback, not many people are gonna want to address every buff/nerf with an essay, specially when some of the stuff in your first post make little to no sense, such as making BLM harder to see while making SAM a walking cactus.

[Sigma860]

Reading the replies, I regret making this thread. People see a point they disagree with, dismiss the whole thing and offer little or no explanation.

I was hoping to see alternative suggestions, adjustments or discussions around some of the changes.

On a side note, people also seem very offended about LB nerfs, yet LBs are all people whine about on these forums.

Nevermind.

Expecting anything good to come from the people on the official forums of an MMO is like expecting a Zoomer not to eat Tide Pods or lick battery acid to try and get TikTok famous.

[Petite]

not many people are gonna want to address every buff/nerf with an essay

Why do you feel the need to exaggerate like that?

Just touching on some of these. [...]

Thank you. You're the only user that replied with actual talking points, even if they were mostly against my suggestions.

Expecting anything good to come from the people on the official forums of an MMO is like expecting a Zoomer not to eat Tide Pods or lick battery acid to try and get TikTok famous.

I should have known better.