SE bans twitch streamers but not actual cheaters?

[Gothicshark]

The difference is that the undercutting bots aren't announcing to the world that they are in flagrant violation of the TOS unlike Twitch streamers.

The secondary problem with the undercutting bots is that at a glance, nothing they are doing is against the TOS. Standing around isn't against the TOS. Being located near a summoning bell isn't against the TOS. Listing items on the MB isn't against the TOS. Undercutting by 1 gil isn't against the TOS. However, it is the bigger picture of the situation (standing at a summoning bell for hours (days?) on end, relisting every few minutes for the lowest price) that makes it humanly impossible.

Good luck getting a GM to sit there and verify this long enough.

They'd probably fix the problem if they converted the MB into an Auction House instead (FFXI style). And charge an upfront listing fee, so every relist kills the profit.

^^This^^

Things to kill Market Bots should be implemented.

1: Minimum post amount should not be 1 gil, but what a vendor would pay.
2: Upfront Fee.
3: Take the AH method used in SWTOR, the items are listed in a big pool, you buy the quantity you want taken from the lowest selling price (always), this kills Big Money transfers, and over charging on the Market, as the over priced cheap items are always the last to sell.

[DPZ2]

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1. Really? What money-making bot goes out of its way to sell something worth 500 gil for 1 gil? What financial sense that that make? The default post amount is already the vendor price.

2. Let's say, oh, 15%? So that 1 million gil crafted armor piece would now cost 150,000 gil to post? Surest way to ensure nobody but Market Bots sells anything.

3. This is a sure-fire method to make the availability of crafting materials be a wasted effort, and that the only ones to profit will be the market bots who are already selling stacks of 99 for items at the lowest price.

[Gothicshark]

1. Really? What money-making bot goes out of its way to sell something worth 500 gil for 1 gil? What financial sense that that make? The default post amount is already the vendor price.

2. Let's say, oh, 15%? So that 1 million gil crafted armor piece would now cost 150,000 gil to post? Surest way to ensure nobody but Market Bots sells anything.

3. This is a sure-fire method to make the availability of crafting materials be a wasted effort, and that the only ones to profit will be the market bots who are already selling stacks of 99 for items at the lowest price.

1: You must not look at the markets much, if there is more than 20 of an item on the market, it inevitable always ends up lower than the vendor buy price. So much so most things end up under 100gil and most items are sitting a 1 gil on slower servers.
2: No piece of Crafted armor should be at 1 million gil. 100k maybe, but 1 million is taking the piss, I usually undercut people hard on items over inflated like that and make hundreds and sell them at 5k gil or less.
3: If you think this you sound like a part of the problem, not the solution. Cutting off people gouging the market is always a good thing.